Re: Re: Re: Twin Turbo Group Buy?

From: Mark Pryer (mark_pryer@hotmail.com)
Date: Wed Mar 29 2000 - 01:52:56 EST


I would definetly be interested in buying a kit Jon, but would the TBI cause
any kinds of problems with this type of setup?
Mark
91 cc 5spd 6er Dynomax catback 14x3 K&N Ported TB
Bucket seats Accel Super Stock coil

----- Original Message -----
From: Jon Steiger <stei0302@cs.fredonia.edu>
To: <dakota-truck@buffnet.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2000 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: DML: Re: Re: Twin Turbo Group Buy?

>
>
> On Tue, 28 Mar 2000 DICEMAN469@aol.com wrote:
>
> > Who cares how much it is, we have to find someone who would actually do
it!!
> >
>
>
> It looks like there is some interest out there for a kit. I
> am planning to twin turbocharge and intercool my V8 dakota (though
> probably not for a while yet). When I do, I am thinking of offering a
> kit similar to the MPI kit to allow others to make it relatively
> bolt-on. Don't kid yourself, it is probably not going to be as easy
> as buying a supercharger kit and bolting it on, due to the differences
> between v8/v6 and GenII/GenIII, but it should make the install a lot
> easier than doing a one-off for every truck. The biggest problem I
> see is that the GenIII Daks have a lot less room due to the protruding
> wheelwells and smaller engine bay. If we get lucky, the headers I
> design for my truck might work for the GenIIIs too, but even if not,
> GenIII headers could be built too, if there is enough interest. The
> kit I would offer would probably include the headers and all of the
> extra parts like hoses, clamps, bolts, etc. that will be nescessary to
> bolt the turbos in place. I'm sure there will need to be a few different
> kits for different trucks, depending on the model year, engine, wether
> you want to intercool or not, etc. I'd be looking to do this with as
> little overhead for myself as possible both to keep the cost of the
> kits down and reduce my own financial risk. So, the process would be
> you'd get my kit, and source the turbo from somewhere else (maybe I
> could arrange a discount price via Turbonetics or another of the
> turbo outlets), as well as the intercooler (unless I have to have
> one custom made). Once you've got the turbo and intercooler, you
> should have the headers and all the custom bracketry and such you need
> from my kit. There may be some other items you'll want to order like
> a boost gauge, etc. Anything not included in my kit would be listed
> by part number in the install manual, similar to the MPI install guide.
>
> If I were "big" enough, I'd love to offer a complete turbo kit, but
> I think this is the next best thing. Plus, this way you will be able
> to shop for the best price on the turbo, intercooler, and gauges, and
> you will be able to customize your system with different turbos,
> wastegates, etc. It doesn't make much sense to me for me to order the
> parts, jack up the price, and sell 'em to you, when you can just order
> them from the same place I would and save a bundle. (I'm not looking
> to take advantage of anyone or get filthy rich here, just have some fun,
> help other Daks to haul some serious butt, and hopefully cover my R&D
> expenses and help to pay for more mods.) :-)
>
> Anyway, this will happen eventually, but I'm not sure when. I was
> originally going to switch to aftermarket EFI first, but a part of me
> wants to do the turbo thing first to see how well it will play with the
> factory EFI, so I may do that. If there are enough people who are
> interested in a kit like this, it might just push me further in that
> direction. ;-) I have to build up some cash to finance the R&D first
> though. :-(
>
> One nice thing about the turbos is that from my research so far, it
> looks like the cost will be somewhere around half what a properly
> installed supercharger would run. My research has also indicated that
> the turbos should be faster, quieter, and more streetable than a blower.
> (Nitrous is still the bang/buck king though.) :-) (Note: I'm not
> looking to pick a fight with you blower folks; I'm just sharing my
> conclusions... I first started looking at turbos because it was
> something different, and the more I look, the better they seem...)
>
> So, anyone know where I can score a few thou to get this project off
> the ground? Gov't grant? ;-)
>
> -Jon-
>
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