Poor Boy Intake Filter Specs Found!

From: David Albrecht (patch@cdsinet.net)
Date: Tue Aug 01 2000 - 00:09:52 EDT


Nate (and other DML users)! I noticed some discussion on the list as to the
difference between a couple of filters being used for the poorboy intake
system. Well I ordered my filter tonight from Summit and found out the
difference between the RE0920 filter that your site listed and the RE0810
that was being discussed on the list. I had to call their tech dept and the
guy said it was a pain in the ass to look up the specs but he did it so
thanks goes to him. These two filters are exactly the same except for one
aspect...The inside diameter of the flange end. The filter listed on your
site (RE0920) has a 3.5 inch inside diameter which is perfect if you are
using a 3" PVC pipe for the poorboy since the outer diameter of the 3" PVC
is 3.5". The flexible tubing off the air hat actually has a 3" inside
diameter, but it does stretch over the PVC fitting. The only mistake that I
found on your site was that it listed the diameter of the flange end as
being 3" when it should be 3.5". I'm not sure how flexible these filter
flanges are so I don't know if the RE0810 would stretch out over the 3.5"
pipe. What would be ideal is to use that filter and use a pipe that had an
outer diameter of 3". I don't think I have ever seen PVC offered in 1/2"
sizes such as a 2.5" ID which would give you a 3" OD. Hope this helps
anyone out there still confused and if I have just said something that
someone else had found out and already posted I guess it won't hurt to say
it again! If anyone has found out anything different then we need to call
Summit tech and give them some shit!

David Albrecht
Central Missouri

----- Original Message -----
From: Nate Johnson <natedak2k@yahoo.com>
To: David Albrecht <patch@cdsinet.net>
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2000 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: Question about poor boy intake again...

> If your pipe fits into the flexible tubing from the Airhat it'll fit into
> the end of the K&N. The diameter of the K&N and flexible tubing are the
> same... Hmm.. maybe there's a typo on my site? When you get that K&N
PLEASE
> measure it for me and let me know what the dimensions are... If My site's
> wrong I need to fix it!
>
> I did the small hose the hard way... I drilled a hole in my Po'boy and put
a
> little nipple in there for the hose to connect to. (you can see it in the
> picture at my site). I would say that's probably not the best/easiest way
> though... They make little tiny filters/breathers that would plug right
into
> that tube no problem! And probably look kinda cool too! That air does
need
> to be filtered though.. I wouldn't just remove it.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Albrecht <patch@cdsinet.net>
> To: Nate Johnson <natedak2k@yahoo.com>
> Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2000 9:25 PM
> Subject: Question about poor boy intake again...
>
>
> > Nate...
> > I went out and puchased a PVC fitting and piece of pipe today so now all
I
> > need to do is order the filter. I noticed that the filter you have
listed
> > has a 3" inside diameter. Is this the diameter of where the pipe goes
> into
> > it? The reason I am asking is that I purchased all 3" pipe and fitting
> but
> > the actually outside diameter of the pipe is 3.5". The pipe will slide
> into
> > the flexible tube coming off the air box on the throttle body with a
> little
> > pushing, but will it slide into the end of the filter too? I just
wanted
> to
> > make sure before I ordered the filter. When you purchased your pipe and
> > fitting did you go with a 2.5" inside diameter which would give you a 3"
> > outside diameter? Just wondering if I got the wrong size stuff or if
the
> > filter end will stretch like the flex tubing did. One last
> question...there
> > is a small hose that comes up to the pipe going from the stock box to
the
> > filter box. What did you do with that? Cap it off? Take it out?
Thanks
> > so much for the info!!!
> >
> > David
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Nate Johnson <natedak2k@yahoo.com>
> > To: David Albrecht <patch@cdsinet.net>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 8:21 AM
> > Subject: Re: Your Po-boy Intake System
> >
> >
> > > Well, I only had one thing in mind when I said that (things they don't
> > > tell you at the dealer). Now, you may already know this but I'll go
> ahead
> > > and explain it to ya. You have the capability to force your truck to
> > > perform a "self test" of all sensors, the computer, etc... When you
do
> > > this it will also "list" any MIL codes stored in the computer! It
does
> > > this via. the digital odometer. What you do is, with the key in the
> > > ignition but turned off, depress the trip reset button (in the inst.
> > > cluster), and HOLD IT. While holding it in turn the key to the "ON"
> > > position (not start) and keep holding in the trip reset button. Give
it
> > > about 5 seconds and then you'll see, I believe it's the word "chec",
in
> > > the odometer. At this point you can let go of the reset button and
> enjoy
> > > the show! It'll do a whole bunch of stuff, the odo and guages will go
> > > nuts. At the very end of the test if there's any codes stored in the
> > > computer it will spit them out one at a time on the odometer! Pretty
> cool
> > > huh? And you thought you needed a scan tool! hehehe. Now, I've never
> > > actually seen the codes spit up, and I hope I never do! But I've
spoken
> > > to someone who has had a code spit up on a '00 so I know that it
works.
> > > (Bad O2 sensor from the factory). Anyway, I've enclosed a list of
codes
> > > for your reference (by far not a complete list).
> > >
> > > Yeah, Your definitly better off building your own intake. As far as
the
> > > intake tube going straight to the TB that's just for looks. If you
> don't
> > > care what it looks like I wouldn't even worry about removing the stock
> air
> > > hat. If you take it off (I have) you'll notice that all it is
> underneath
> > > that big square cover is a 90 degree tube that connects between the
TB
> > > and the airbox... Nothing different then a mandrel bent 3" tube! It's
> > > alot easier to connect your "po-boy" to that flexible tube too because
> it
> > > allows a little flexibility.
> > >
> > > Gibson's seem to be one of the "cat backs" of choice... Good choice
> there!
> > >
> > > Sounds like you've got a sweet truck! I'll definitly recomment the
> extang
> > > BlackMax snap cover. Excellent cover I've had mine almost a year with
no
> > > problems and it's adjustable for temp. changes. comes with a 3 year
> tarp
> > > 5 year rail warrentee to boot!
> > > I found my best price here - http://www.accessconnect.com/extang.htm
> > > The manufacturers site is - http://www.extang.com/
> > >
> > > Good Luck!
> > > Nate.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- David Albrecht <patch@cdsinet.net> wrote:
> > > > Hey there... Thanks for the info! I got it all printed off and am
> > > > thinking of reseting my computer this weekend when I get time. What
> did
> > > > you mean by things they don't tell you at the dealer's? My truck is
a
> > > > 2000 Club Cab 4x4 SLT. It has the 4.7L with the auto. It's pretty
> much
> > > > loaded although I put my CD player in it yesterday that I had in my
> > > > other truck. I've been looking at exhausts and the different air
> intake
> > > > setups you can get. I'll probably go with the GIbson cat back. I
> will
> > > > probably try to make my own intake setup like you did...There is a
guy
> > > > at www.coffeyjet.com that is making them and selling them. He is
> > > > actually making them so you can remove the stock air box on top of
the
> > > > throttle body completely. I wish that he had a closer picture so I
> > > > could see how it attached. My plans so far are for the exhaust and
> the
> > > > intake system first. I'll probably go with a snap top cover for the
> > > > bed. My truck came with the trailer package. It was a demo and was
> not
> > > > orignally ordered with it, but the maintenance manager at the
> dealership
> > > > was driving it and he had it put on. Anyways...I do love the
> > > > truck...rides great....plenty of power....can't wait to try it in
the
> > > > mud! Well I will talk at ya later...I joined the DML tonight. This
> > > > will be my third list I have been on. First it was for a early
> > > > bronco...then the toyota 4x4 one..and now this one. Thanks for
> > > > everything...
> > > >
> > > > David Albrecht
> > > > Missouri
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Nate Johnson
> > > > To: David Albrecht
> > > > Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2000 10:25 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: Your Po-boy Intake System
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The computer in your Dak "learns" your driving style... Especially
> if
> > > > you have an auto (which I don't). It takes a few hundred miles of
> > > > "normal" driving to teach the computer what's up. With an auto
it'll
> > > > adjust shift points fuel and air mapping, and other perimeters with
a
> > > > stick it just leaves out the shift points (obviously!) Whenever you
> > > > perform a mod to the engine, i.e.. air intake, fuel delivery,
pulleys,
> > > > cams, spark plugs, etc. etc. etc. the computer will take a few
hundred
> > > > miles to "realize" that something new is going on before it learns
the
> > > > new settings. When you reset the computer you, in effect, wipe out
> it's
> > > > memory and force it to relearn everything it knew with the new
> > > > perimeters. To reset the computer you simply disconnect
(completely)
> > > > the battery and while the battery is disconnected you turn the key
to
> > > > start for a few seconds. Obviously nothing will happen but your
> > > > computers memory has now been wiped out! You'll immediately notice,
> > > > that the truck will behave differently for awhile until it relearns
> and
> > > > sets itself up. A way to speed up the learning process is to
perform
> an
> > > > OBDII (that's the 96 and newer emissions standard) driving cycle
which
> > > > is available at my site but I'll attach it here for ya.
> > > >
> > > > What year Dakota did you get, a 2000? There's a few other goodies
> in
> > > > there that they don't tell you about at the dealer. If your
> interested
> > > > just let me know. If you haven't already I STRONGLY suggest you join
> the
> > > > DML (Dakota mailing list) also. Threre's a wealth of information
> there
> > > > also. It's basically a list server comprised of about 500 or so
> Dakota
> > > > owners around the World all discussing their Dakota's. I won't tell
> you
> > > > everything here though because I'd just be repeating what's at the
> DML's
> > > > site. You can take a look at
> > > > http://www.cs.fredonia.edu/~stei0302/www/dakota/dakota.html
> > > >
> > > > Well, good luck and I'm sure you'll LOVE that Dakota!
> > > > (see attached OBDII driving cycle.)
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: David Albrecht
> > > > To: natedak2k@yahoo.com
> > > > Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2000 9:44 PM
> > > > Subject: Your Po-boy Intake System
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Saw you site...liked the air induction you came up with. Just
one
> > > > question...I'm a new Dakota owner (1 week now) and was wondering
what
> > > > you were taking about when you said "computer reset." Can you
> explain?
> > > > Thanks...
> > > >
> > > > David Albrecht
> > > > Missouri
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > =====
> > > Nate, Ogden UT
> > > http://www.geocities.com/natedak2k
> > > Forest Green 00 Dakota CC 4X4, 5-speed, LSD, 3.92 Rear, 4.7L/287ci,
> Po'boy
> > cold air w/ K&N, Extang BlackMax Tonneau
> > > "D2K"
> > >
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