You can have my 318 in trade for a 360 or larger :)
Seth Hollander wrote:
>
> I miss the 318 too....it was it's time, but damn it's
> a badass engine. How long did Chrysler use it for?
> Something like 3 decades.....screw the Chevy 350, the
> 318 is right up there in my opinion. That's my 2cents,
> Seth
>
> --- Kenneth Berntsen <kenneth@berntsen.cc> wrote:
> > Hee Hee look what I started.
> >
> > Course I cringe when some one calls me Kenny... But
> > I won't hold that
> > against ya this time Sean. :)
> >
> > Guess I just miss the 318. :)
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Sean Bruckman [mailto:bruckman@urisp.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 4:47 PM
> > To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net
> > Subject: DML: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: Tired of getting
> > slammed 4.7L TQ curve
> >
> >
> > Easy guys... i cringed when Kenny said not-so-nice
> > stuff about the 4.7, but
> > i didn't flame him.
> >
> > I thought about what you said, Matt, but i think i'm
> > gonna have to disagree
> > and say that perhaps in some cases the dyno graphs
> > on the dodge site are
> > fairly accurate as an average. One dyno doesn't
> > really prove them wrong in
> > my mind and you can't base an argument on the
> > technical accuracy of
> > something that's mostly supposed to be a pretty
> > graphic. (and especially one
> > with a disclaimer of accuracy under it)
> >
> > I think the basis of this argument can be explained
> > thus:
> >
> > Ken "felt" like the 3.9 had a "flatter" torque curve
> > compared to the 4.7L. I
> > think we might be able to agree he was experiencing
> > that feeling because
> > when he pushed a little on the 3.9 it gave him a
> > nice, powerful pull. But
> > let's say it was muted in delivery compared to the
> > surge of raw, god-like
> > and exuberant energy the 4.7 hit him with.
> >
> > Okay, that's a little overboard... but we could say
> > simply the 4.7 is punchy
> > enough that it may feel ackward when you are trying
> > to go slow. =)
> >
> > Sean Bruckman
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Barret, Matt <MATT_BARRET@earthtech.com>
> > To: <dakota-truck@buffnet.net>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 3:14 PM
> > Subject: DML: RE: RE: RE: RE: Tired of getting
> > slammed 4.7L TQ curve
> >
> >
> > I have stated before, you can't go by those crappy
> > dyno graphs that DC puts
> > on the website, I mean come on, look at the 3.9L
> > graph they have on there,
> > their graph says the 3.9L is making 280+ Ftlbs of TQ
> > ???? I'll email you my
> > dyno graph, take a look at it, it will change your
> > mind about the 4.7L.
> > Compare it to the 4.7L graph on the internet.
> >
> > Matt
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > <From: Kenneth Berntsen [mailto:kenneth@berntsen.cc]
> > >Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 4:08 PM
> > >To: 'Barret, Matt '
> > >Subject: RE: RE: RE: RE: Tired of getting slammed
> > 4.7L TQ curve
> >
> >
> > <Well, actually by the graph Dodge has on the web
> > site, the 4.7 puts out
> > more
> > <torque at idle thatn the max of the 3.9. And the
> > 4.7 doesn't have a flat
> > <curve, it spikes acording again to the graph done
> > by Dodge. All I know is
> > <for the 4.7 to get moving, and I might add it was a
> > Quadcab, I had to take
> > <it up to around 1800 RPM. Prolly got more to do
> > with transmission (Auto)
> > <than the output of the engine.
> >
> > <My main point is that I hope the torque curve looks
> > more like the curve on
> > <the current 3.9 or the 5.9 than the one on the new
> > 4.7.
> >
> > <Actually if you wanna talk flat torque curve, look
> > at the one for the
> > <Cummins Diesel. Now that's flat.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Barret, Matt
> > To: 'dakota-truck@buffnet.net'
> > Sent: 8/30/00 1:48 PM
> > Subject: DML: RE: RE: RE: Tired of getting slammed
> > 4.7L TQ curve
> >
> > I'd like to see your dyno graph for your 3.9L,
> > apparently you haven't
> > seen a
> > dyno graph for a 4.7L, cause its torque curve is as
> > flat or flatter and
> > ALOT
> > higher than a stock 3.9L. You are basing your
> > observation on assumption
> > and
> > feeling, and not facts. At 1200 rpm the 4.7L puts
> > out more torque to
> > the
> > rear wheels than the maximum flywheel torque of a
> > 3.9L (220).
> > What exactly is "smooth" when referring to the
> > torque curve?? Lets talk
> > dyno graphs and not what this truck "felt" like or
> > that truck "felt"
> > like.
> > I know you're not slamming the 4.7L, but lets talk
> > facts here, instead
> > of
> > fiction and dreams.
> >
> > __________________________________
> > Matt--VA--Y2K-HEMI `00 Sport Plus RC
> > 4.7L 5spd. 14.48 @ 92.40 MPH
> > 209.9 RWHP/285 RWTQ
> > ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > <From: Kenneth Berntsen [mailto:kenneth@berntsen.cc]
> > <Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 1:45 PM
> > <To: 'dakota-truck@buffnet.net'
> > <Subject: DML: RE: RE: Tired of getting
> > slammed-kinda long
> >
> >
> > <Ya know,
> >
> > <HP is one thing but the V6 has something the 4.7
> > doesn't. Not trying
> > to
> > <slam the 4.7 but the 6 and 318 both have a nice
> > smooth torque curve.
> > When
> > I
> > <pull my boat out with my 3.9 I just giver her a
> > little gas to get the
> > RPMs
> > <up to around 1200 and she just rolls right up the
> > ramp. Pulled it with
> > a
> > <friends 4.7 and yes by all means it pulled it right
> > up the ramp but
> > just
> > <didn't seam to come as naturally to that engine. I
> > hope the new 3.7 V6
> > <doesn't inherit the torque curve of the 4.7.
> >
> > <Just my 2 cents.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Stlaurent Mr Steven
> > [mailto:STLAURENTS@mctssa.usmc.mil]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 9:48 AM
> > To: 'dakota-truck@buffnet.net'
> > Subject: DML: RE: Tired of getting slammed-kinda
> > long
> >
> > <The problem with the old V6, no Bernd it is not
> > generalization, the HP
> > was
> > <not quite there yet. With the new line of V6
> > coming it will surpass
> > the
> > <current V6 and some of the V-8 on the current
> > market.
> >
> > -------------------------------------------
> > Steven St.Laurent
> > Test Engineer
> > Test Branch, GSD, MCTSSA
> > MARCORSYSCOM, USMC
> > 760-725-2506 (DSN 365-2506)
> > Work:mailto:stlaurents@mctssa.usmc.mil
> > Home:mailto:saint1958@home.com
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