Why is everyone so hung up on the fact that the lightning is supercharged.
Or it costs (at least in my area.. ) 29k. Point is, its a sport truck, and
it demolishes everything else on the market. Most folks buy vehicles and
keep em stock so they don't care if you can throw another 3 grand in the R/T
and make it faster than "most" lightnings. All they know is the lightning
is faster and handles better stock for stock. Yes its more expensive but
folks are used to the "You've got to pay to play." Why is it so hard for
folks to give credit where credit is due. Oh, I forgot, they didn't buy it.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ryan Stewart [mailto:firebird@kymtnnet.org]
> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 3:31 PM
> To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net
> Subject: Re: DML: Re: new 270hp S-10
>
>
> Whoa there Bernd! First off, Sean is correct, nothing is
> amazing about a
> truck with a friggin supercharger running low 14s.... I mean,
> c'mon, just
> this weekend Charles Smith ran faster than 80% of stock
> Lightnings with
> $1900 in mods NATURALLY ASPIRATED!!! THAT actually makes the
> Lightning seem
> kinda, um, well, UNimpressive.
>
> Second, originally anyhow, I was talking about
> compact/midsize trucks as the
> thread was about S10s.
>
> Sorry if I seemed to flame a little, but I get tired of
> people telling me
> how incredible it is to pay $35000 for a 2WD Supercharged
> truck that does
> friggin low 14s..... It's actually pretty pitiful......
>
> -Ryan
> 99 DA RC R/T
> Paid 16500. Gimme 2100 and I'll take out any stock Lightning
> for under 20k.
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Sean Bruckman <bruckman@urisp.com>
> To: <dakota-truck@buffnet.net>
> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 4:32 PM
> Subject: Re: DML: Re: new 270hp S-10
>
>
> > I think what needs to be said here is that:
> >
> > 1) the lightning is faster, but no breakthrough! it's
> supercharged and
> > therefore not in the same catagory. just because it's
> supercharged doesn't
> > make it a better engine. there is nothing, i repeat,
> nothing special about
> > the lightning. take a look at the 300M "Special" concept
> that cranks 300
> hp
> > and 290+ lb.ft. of torque N/A out of a 3.5L V6. THAT is something
> special.
> > (the lightning would have to produce 463hp on premium gas
> WITHOUT the
> > supercharger/intercooler to achieve that specific output)
> >
> > 2) Ryan is right, the 4.7 and 5.7 are amazing high-tech
> engines. so, they
> > are better engines. so, dodge is ahead.
> >
> > 3) the s-10 is lighter, and a more favorable power-to-weight ratio.
> > unfortunately for your argument we're talking about the
> next-gen s10,
> which
> > is a midsize truck and about the same weight as us, theoretically.
> >
> > So what i'm saying is, when the unibody, next-gen S-10 with
> a 4.8L V8
> comes
> > out, we will still be dusting them in HO 4.7L's with 325
> horse, stock.
> >
> > Sean Bruckman
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <bernd@texas.net>
> > To: <dakota-truck@buffnet.net>
> > Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 8:23 AM
> > Subject: Re: DML: Re: new 270hp S-10
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Exactly right.
> > >
> > > - Bernd
> > >
> > >
> > > > I agree. I mean, I would like to think that Mopar will
> step up to the
> > plate
> > > once
> > > > again, but don't discount the GM just because we have a
> V8 and ours
> will
> > be
> > > newer
> > > > and probably have more HP. Yo guys ever hear of "POwer-To-Weight
> Ratio"?
> > It
> > > doesn't
> > > > take a rocket scientist to figure out that the S-Trucks
> are lighter
> than
> > the
> > > Daks.
> > > >
> > > > bernd@texas.net wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Not to defend "the other guys" here...but you stated
> "Chevy and Ford
> > are
> > > always
> > > > > one step BEHIND."...explain the Lightning. You
> know...the truck
> that,
> > in
> > > > > factory form, can take most of our modified trucks
> and chew them up
> > for
> > > > > breakfast.
> > > > >
> > > > > We spend thousands of dollars on modifications (Superchargers,
> > Headers,
> > > > > Nitrous, Throttle Bodies, Cams, M1's, etc...) and all
> they have to
> do
> > to hit
> > > > > the 12's is a simple air cleaner/mass airflow change and a
> > "chip"...for no
> > > more
> > > > > than $500 in some cases.
> > > > >
> > > > > Again, i'm not trying to defend them...but we need to
> be a little
> bit
> > more
> > > > > careful about what we say about the competition.
> > > > >
> > > > > - Bernd
> > > > >
> > > > > > Yep, but when this comes out it will be too little,
> too late, as a
> > new
> > > > > > series of V8s (hemis) will already be in the
> Dakotas........Chevy
> > and Ford
> > > > > > are always one step BEHIND. :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Ryan
> > > > > > 99 DA RC R/T
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: <Y2KDakuda@aol.com>
> > > > > > To: <dakota-truck@buffnet.net>; <STLAURENTS@mctssa.usmc.mil>
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 12:57 PM
> > > > > > Subject: DML: new 270hp S-10
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://pickuptruck.com/html/future/chevrolet/sseries.html
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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