You mean the upper to mid 13s for a 33K truck. No pun intended.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Ryan Stewart [mailto:firebird@kymtnnet.org]
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 12:31 PM
To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net
Subject: Re: DML: Re: new 270hp S-10
Whoa there Bernd! First off, Sean is correct, nothing is amazing about a
truck with a friggin supercharger running low 14s.... I mean, c'mon, just
this weekend Charles Smith ran faster than 80% of stock Lightnings with
$1900 in mods NATURALLY ASPIRATED!!! THAT actually makes the Lightning seem
kinda, um, well, UNimpressive.
Second, originally anyhow, I was talking about compact/midsize trucks as the
thread was about S10s.
Sorry if I seemed to flame a little, but I get tired of people telling me
how incredible it is to pay $35000 for a 2WD Supercharged truck that does
friggin low 14s..... It's actually pretty pitiful......
-Ryan
99 DA RC R/T
Paid 16500. Gimme 2100 and I'll take out any stock Lightning for under 20k.
----- Original Message -----
From: Sean Bruckman <bruckman@urisp.com>
To: <dakota-truck@buffnet.net>
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: DML: Re: new 270hp S-10
> I think what needs to be said here is that:
>
> 1) the lightning is faster, but no breakthrough! it's supercharged and
> therefore not in the same catagory. just because it's supercharged doesn't
> make it a better engine. there is nothing, i repeat, nothing special about
> the lightning. take a look at the 300M "Special" concept that cranks 300
hp
> and 290+ lb.ft. of torque N/A out of a 3.5L V6. THAT is something
special.
> (the lightning would have to produce 463hp on premium gas WITHOUT the
> supercharger/intercooler to achieve that specific output)
>
> 2) Ryan is right, the 4.7 and 5.7 are amazing high-tech engines. so, they
> are better engines. so, dodge is ahead.
>
> 3) the s-10 is lighter, and a more favorable power-to-weight ratio.
> unfortunately for your argument we're talking about the next-gen s10,
which
> is a midsize truck and about the same weight as us, theoretically.
>
> So what i'm saying is, when the unibody, next-gen S-10 with a 4.8L V8
comes
> out, we will still be dusting them in HO 4.7L's with 325 horse, stock.
>
> Sean Bruckman
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <bernd@texas.net>
> To: <dakota-truck@buffnet.net>
> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 8:23 AM
> Subject: Re: DML: Re: new 270hp S-10
>
>
> >
> > Exactly right.
> >
> > - Bernd
> >
> >
> > > I agree. I mean, I would like to think that Mopar will step up to the
> plate
> > once
> > > again, but don't discount the GM just because we have a V8 and ours
will
> be
> > newer
> > > and probably have more HP. Yo guys ever hear of "POwer-To-Weight
Ratio"?
> It
> > doesn't
> > > take a rocket scientist to figure out that the S-Trucks are lighter
than
> the
> > Daks.
> > >
> > > bernd@texas.net wrote:
> > >
> > > > Not to defend "the other guys" here...but you stated "Chevy and Ford
> are
> > always
> > > > one step BEHIND."...explain the Lightning. You know...the truck
that,
> in
> > > > factory form, can take most of our modified trucks and chew them up
> for
> > > > breakfast.
> > > >
> > > > We spend thousands of dollars on modifications (Superchargers,
> Headers,
> > > > Nitrous, Throttle Bodies, Cams, M1's, etc...) and all they have to
do
> to hit
> > > > the 12's is a simple air cleaner/mass airflow change and a
> "chip"...for no
> > more
> > > > than $500 in some cases.
> > > >
> > > > Again, i'm not trying to defend them...but we need to be a little
bit
> more
> > > > careful about what we say about the competition.
> > > >
> > > > - Bernd
> > > >
> > > > > Yep, but when this comes out it will be too little, too late, as a
> new
> > > > > series of V8s (hemis) will already be in the Dakotas........Chevy
> and Ford
> > > > > are always one step BEHIND. :)
> > > > >
> > > > > -Ryan
> > > > > 99 DA RC R/T
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: <Y2KDakuda@aol.com>
> > > > > To: <dakota-truck@buffnet.net>; <STLAURENTS@mctssa.usmc.mil>
> > > > > Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 12:57 PM
> > > > > Subject: DML: new 270hp S-10
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > http://pickuptruck.com/html/future/chevrolet/sseries.html
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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