Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Shelby outrunning a Dak

From: Mark Kuzia (flyboy01@mediaone.net)
Date: Sun Dec 24 2000 - 15:48:19 EST


I would have made you cry. (not tears of joy, but of shame)

Mark Kuzia
flyboy01@mediaone.net
http://people.mw.mediaone.net/flyboy01/home.html
1995 Dakota 13.79 @ 102.45 mph
360ci, 5-spd, 4.11 LS(8 3/4 coming soon), Cowl-induction
(A new E-body 8 3/4 [3.90 SG] has been built by Reider Racing)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sam South" <sawcut64@mediaone.net>
To: <dakota-truck@buffnet.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2000 10:44 AM
Subject: DML: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Shelby outrunning a Dak

> Yeah nitrous is a wonderful thing except when you rev the engine with the
> bottle open and huge pretty orange flames shoot out from under the hood of
a
> certain someone's Mustang :-) Too bad we never got to line up against
each
> other(without the nitrous of course)
> Sam South
> 95 Dak, V-8,3.90 LSD,5-speed
> 14.10@98.05
> http://people.mw.mediaone.net/sawcut64/home.html
> sawcut64@mediaone.net
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Kuzia" <flyboy01@mediaone.net>
> To: <dakota-truck@buffnet.net>
> Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2000 10:15 AM
> Subject: DML: Re: Re: Re: Re: Shelby outrunning a Dak
>
>
> > In the 1/4? As remember, my car was running 13.30's @ 108 mph at the
> time.
> >
> > This is more important than work!
> >
> > Mark Kuzia
> > flyboy01@mediaone.net
> > http://people.mw.mediaone.net/flyboy01/home.html
> > 1995 Dakota 13.79 @ 102.45 mph
> > 360ci, 5-spd, 4.11 LS(8 3/4 coming soon), Cowl-induction
> > (A new E-body 8 3/4 [3.90 SG] has been built by Reider Racing)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Sam South" <sawcut64@mediaone.net>
> > To: <dakota-truck@buffnet.net>
> > Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2000 10:03 AM
> > Subject: DML: Re: Re: Re: Shelby outrunning a Dak
> >
> >
> > > Yeah in the winter and in the curves and probably in the quarter!! Hey
> > > aren't you supposed to be at work?!
> > > Sam South
> > > 95 Dak, V-8,3.90 LSD,5-speed
> > > 14.10@98.05
> > > http://people.mw.mediaone.net/sawcut64/home.html
> > > sawcut64@mediaone.net
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Mark Kuzia" <flyboy01@mediaone.net>
> > > To: <dakota-truck@buffnet.net>
> > > Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2000 9:45 AM
> > > Subject: DML: Re: Re: Shelby outrunning a Dak
> > >
> > >
> > > > Yeah,.......................I remberer..................... seeing
> those
> > > > Daytonas in my rear view mirrors, except during winter time.
> > > >
> > > > Mark Kuzia
> > > > flyboy01@mediaone.net
> > > > http://people.mw.mediaone.net/flyboy01/home.html
> > > > 1995 Dakota 13.79 @ 102.45 mph
> > > > 360ci, 5-spd, 4.11 LS(8 3/4 coming soon), Cowl-induction
> > > > (A new E-body 8 3/4 [3.90 SG] has been built by Reider Racing)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Sam South" <sawcut64@mediaone.net>
> > > > To: <dakota-truck@buffnet.net>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2000 9:34 AM
> > > > Subject: DML: Re: Shelby outrunning a Dak
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hey I had an 89 Daytona Shelby too but mine was quite a bit faster
> > then
> > > > 16.1
> > > > > all I did was a straight pipe from cat out (no muffler)which gave
> more
> > > > > boost, a home made ram air, a drop in K@N and split fire plugs. It
> was
> > > > > running high 14's, the trick with a front driver is rev the engine
> up
> > to
> > > > > 3500-3800 and slip the clutch just enough to get the tires
spinning
> > > > slightly
> > > > > then power shift the other gears. I used to love doing burnouts
and
> > > > watching
> > > > > the smoke pour over the hood. FUN!!!
> > > > > Sam South
> > > > > 95 Dak, V-8,3.90 LSD,5-speed
> > > > > 14.10@98.05
> > > > > http://people.mw.mediaone.net/sawcut64/home.html
> > > > > sawcut64@mediaone.net
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Patrick and Kelly Engram" <patrickandkelly@erols.com>
> > > > > To: "DML" <dakota-truck@buffnet.net>
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2000 8:29 AM
> > > > > Subject: DML: Shelby outrunning a Dak
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > I've had a little experience with FWD Shelby's. The first
Shelby
> I
> > > had
> > > > > > was an '89 Daytona, with the Turbo II motor and 5 spd. This had
a
> > > > > > little over 175 hp and only came with a stick. The Turbo I
motor
> > > could
> > > > > > be had with the automatic in the ES Turbo model, and barely
> cracked
> > > 150
> > > > > > hp. The fastest that I ran with my '89 was 16.1 seconds in the
> > > quarter,
> > > > > > and that was with spooling the turbo up to speed, and dumping
the
> > > clutch
> > > > > > at 4500 rpms. It just wouldnt go faster...It felt fast though,
> and
> > > the
> > > > > > problem was waiting for the boost to kick in. That wait added
> > > precious
> > > > > > time to the ET, but when the boost came on, it came on hard.
> > > > > > In 1990, they revised the turbo system to become the VNT
Turbo,
> > > > > > (variable nozzle) this was done to try to reduce the boost lag,
> and
> > > > > > supposedly the cars picked up ET down to 15.7's. Then, the IROC
> R/T
> > > was
> > > > > > released with a 4 valve per cylinder Lotus cylinder head and
> > > > > > turbocharged, which dropped it into the 14's. Then, the V6 3.0L
> > > became
> > > > > > the engine for the last year of IROC R/T, I believe.
> > > > > > Now, the Shelby Charger was a different model altogether, and
> > > started
> > > > > > in '83 with a H.O. 2.2L engine, no turbo. Fairly quick car.
The
> > > turbo
> > > > > > was put in either late '84 or in '85. The fastest one was the
> '87,
> > > with
> > > > > > changes in cams, computer stuff, and turbo equipment. There was
a
> > > > > > limited release of an additional Shelby Charger that was made in
> > black
> > > > > > only, had the new Turbo II engine, and ran 14's stock. There
were
> > > about
> > > > > > 1000 made, and it was a GLHS model, or something of the like.
All
> > of
> > > > > > these models were 5 speeds. The last year for the Charger was
'87
> > or
> > > > > > '88
> > > > > > The Daytona in it's last body style never had skunk stripes on
> it,
> > > but
> > > > > > did have flip up headlights. The charger models never had flip
> ups,
> > > but
> > > > > > did have 1 stripe on it, went from deck lid, onto roof, and then
> > onto
> > > > > > hood.
> > > > > > I owned a few Shelby Chargers, and with the Turbo II, it felt
> fast
> > > and
> > > > > > went fast. There was turbo lag, but less than the Daytona (I'd
> > expect
> > > > > > that it felt different because of the weight difference) and
when
> it
> > > > > > took off, it was everything you could do to hold the wheel
> straight
> > > > > > because of the torque steer and power it put down. I never
raced
> > any
> > > of
> > > > > > them, but they felt easily in the 14's. My biggest problem was
> with
> > > the
> > > > > > handling. I put the mopar perfomance suspension under my '87,
and
> > > could
> > > > > > get the car to hug the road so well with V-rated tires that the
> left
> > > > > > front tire would rub the side of the transaxle case, and I'd
have
> to
> > > > > > back off and slow down. Real pisser, cause that car felt like
it
> > was
> > > on
> > > > > > rails.
> > > > > > These cars are easily modified for additional power and
speed,
> > and
> > > if
> > > > > > it was a Charger that got someone on the list that started this
> > > thread,
> > > > > > I wouldnt feel so bad. Now, if it was a Daytona, it really had
to
> > > > > > depend on what motor was in the thing, or what the guy had done
to
> > it.
> > > > > > Patrick
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>



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