I can still buy a used Viper and due the same as you and push well over
1000HP (mild that is), drive it to work everyday, and do over 180MPH plus
where the Supra would burn up at that speed. Again, no comparison here to
look at.
Yet, I have to say, Toyota is looking into a super sport car but the price?
Try around 140K....for 400HP.
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Steven St.Laurent
System Engineer (IOW/IOS-NT)
PSD, MCTSSA
MARCORSYSCOM, USMC
(Work) 760-725-2506 (DSN: 365)
(Work) mailto:stlaurents@mctssa.usmc.mil
(Home) mailto:saint1958@home.com
"In fact, my work has already proven
itself to be correct. People such
as you just haven't gotten it yet.
(unknown author)
-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Baker [mailto:gbaker@iglou.com]
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 3:31 PM
To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net
Subject: DML: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: Fast and the Furious (offtopic)
Ok just to staighten everyone out that thinks "Ricer" cars are not fast. My
Durango is my tow vehicle for my Toyota Supra that makes over 700 rwhp which
is proven not estimated. The trailer of the black car running the orange
supra has reverse wheely bars. You can tell it does, but for someone that
does not know much about cars would think it was cool. The orange supra
could easily make over 800 rwhp because of its T66 turbo and nitrous system.
The guy never raced it because he never needed to, he is the directed of
NIRA. The Viper is impressive but who really wants to pay $150k for a car
that makes 700 rwhp. My car makes more than that and I didn't spend 150k.
So to get back to the movie, of course it isn't realistic as someone else
said it is hollywood.
Greg
gbaker@iglou.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-dakota-truck@BUFFNET.NET
[mailto:owner-dakota-truck@BUFFNET.NET]On Behalf Of Stlaurent Mr Steven
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 2:46 PM
To: 'dakota-truck@buffnet.net'
Subject: DML: RE: RE: RE: Re: Fast and the Furious (offtopic)
What I find today, even with the ultra light Suzuki GT versus Honda Civics
(same HP but the weight factor on the Suzuki has a 600LB advantage), same
analogy, these kids don't understand what horsepower really is unless it has
at least 15PSI and claimed it can run with the best (Viper, Dodge R/T
Charger etc...). After driving a stock Viper, it still not the same old
Steve's muscle car but close. Thrill of the TQ factor and G force behind
it.
Yet, I just keep laughing when I hear how the ricer can keep up with a
Viper.... Statement, "My ricer can out run a Dodge Viper." Instead, if I
apply the same logic, adding the blower, the turbo or NOS, the ricer will
still be at the light... But if I would remove the turbo, blower and see
who will do what at stock level, the ricer will still lose. Maybe that is
why they need the 4.43:1 gears (Blahahahahahahha). Or, reverse it, let us
apply the turbo and run it at 30PSI doing a dyno run and claim I have 600HP
at the wheel and then lower it to 15PSI for the street, afraid that the
engine will lose it bottom end. Seeing what the Viper twin turbo running at
6PSI, imagine what it would run on 15PSI per turbo?
There are few old people here know what it is like to run a 700RWHP plus
street machines. With 12.5:1 compression and 100 plus octane level gasoline
to supply the 30 second per gallon usage. This is the typical ricer day
dreamer who YAKS and cannot never produce. Having talked to many rice
heads, most of them cannot relate to muscle cars and real horsepower. But
then, most of them cannot afford real horsepower cars either. Like Bernd
said before, nothing like displacement for power. In this sense, yes...the
bigger the better for HP factor.
After racing against the local Hondas VTech, SI, R, S, Nissans and other
wanna-be Hyndoooo, man, what idiots. Either to much internet bull crap or
too many magazine claims. But never enough real sense of HP versus weight
factor/suspension/wheels. My 2 cents. Wait until 2003, one mean Dakota
R/T coming. This time, I will buy the truck and have it delivered to the
speed shop before driving it. Street/strip version....
But then I still have a love for the next Viper also....
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Steven St.Laurent
System Engineer (IOW/IOS-NT)
PSD, MCTSSA
MARCORSYSCOM, USMC
(Work) 760-725-2506 (DSN: 365)
(Work) mailto:stlaurents@mctssa.usmc.mil
(Home) mailto:saint1958@home.com
"In fact, my work has already proven
itself to be correct. People such
as you just haven't gotten it yet.
(unknown author)
-----Original Message-----
From: Ryan Stewart [mailto:firebird@kymtnnet.org]
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 9:38 AM
To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net
Subject: DML: RE: RE: Re: Fast and the Furious (offtopic)
But on the ricer sites they are making it out to be a true to life
representation of their "genre" of racing. It's SICK!
-Ryan
99 DA RC R/T
We beez hella fast fooz!
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-dakota-truck@buffnet.net
[mailto:owner-dakota-truck@buffnet.net]On Behalf Of Stlaurent Mr Steven
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 9:59 AM
To: 'dakota-truck@buffnet.net'
Subject: DML: RE: Re: Fast and the Furious (offtopic)
It is HOLLLLLLLLLLLLYYYYYWOOOOOODDD going beyond reality Steve.
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Steven St.Laurent
System Engineer (IOW/IOS-NT)
PSD, MCTSSA
MARCORSYSCOM, USMC
(Work) 760-725-2506 (DSN: 365)
(Work) mailto:stlaurents@mctssa.usmc.mil
(Home) mailto:saint1958@home.com
"In fact, my work has already proven
itself to be correct. People such
as you just haven't gotten it yet.
(unknown author)
-----Original Message-----
From: Steven T. Ekstrand [mailto:cyberlaw@earthlink.net]
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 7:51 AM
To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net
Subject: DML: Re: Fast and the Furious (offtopic)
What is unrealistic about this movie is how much power these B18 Civics
have.... I know the import guys are running impressive numbers and such,
but the trailers I've seen have shown explosive power and tons of grip.
Just doesn't happen. Then they race a blown pro street Charger? That does
on the bumper wheelstands... ON THE STREET??? No VHT? No sticky rubber
starting line??? ON THE STREET??? I've pulled a wheel stand on the
street. But not on the friggin bumper..... Okay, fine it can do that...
That means its probably a high 8 second car or better. Its drag racing an
import car that AT BEST would run high 11's.
The imports are fast... But the fastest cars are all RWD Pro Stock or Pro
Mod type vehicles. Front wheel drive cars simply don't run RWD numbers.
An equivalently modified muscle car is going to kill them.
For a real import movie, they should have shown angry Asian kids in
Intregras sitting at the line buzzing 8,000 rpm and side stepping the
clutch to just burn the tread off the front tires in a blaze of glory then
chug the rev limiter, hook up, bog, move forward 60 feet, crunch second
gear and break... Another good one would be, the same scenario only the
car lurches sideways and rolls to a stop... Broken axle.....
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