Re: Re: RE: Service Manuals Project

From: Andy Levy (andylevy@yahoo.com)
Date: Fri Jun 14 2002 - 12:56:52 EDT


Chrysler can make a very good case that they do lose money on each FSM
"stolen" - not only do they not make money on the media, they lose money on
the service visit you avoid by doing it yourself.

""Gabriel A. Couriel"" <BigGabe@FIUFIJI.com> wrote in message
news:MPEOJOCMGKFIMBCMILJMEEOHCBAA.BigGabe@FIUFIJI.com...
>
> contact chrysler. how much money do they make off of this book, and for
> that matter, won't this be helping them out? i don't see how publishing
> this will hurt them, because most of us don't have an FSM, and we're not
> planning on getting one.
>
> yeah, publishing the book is illegal for consent reason, but you can get
> consent from them.
>
> give them a call
>
> Gabe
> http://frontpage.tripod.com/fijigabe0
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net]On Behalf Of Andy Levy
> Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 9:54 AM
> To: dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net
> Subject: Re: DML: Re: RE: Service Manuals Project
>
>
>
> You really think it will be that anonymous? We leave a trail everywhere.
> They can find the DML archives. The hosting ISP could give up logs and
> names when lawysers threaten.
>
> "aww, c'mon, who's gonna get hurt" really isn't a valid defense against
> this. The FSM states on PAGE ONE that any storage & distribution of the
> contents is prohiubited without express consent from Chrysler.
>
> ""Martin Nowak"" <got-speed@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:aecr29$2je$1@bent.twistedbits.net...
> >
> > There is intrest in the project....Count me.
> >
> > One thing that comes to mind is just doing it (the electronic copy) and
> toss
> > it out on the web on a site somewhere. If by chance chrysler did find
it,
> > who would they blame ?? Noone. They would just ask the hosting isp to
take
> > it down.
> >
> > Marty
> >
> >
> >
> > ""Gary Hedlin"" <ghedlin@theramp.net> wrote in message
> > news:aecd9o$qig$1@bent.twistedbits.net...
> > >
> > > I've ran into this problem before. As far as the manuals being
> accessable
> > > to the general public, there's no way I would even THINK about doing
> this
> > > unless there were controlls put in place to only allow certian people
to
> > > access them. They WILL NOT be available to the general public.
> > >
> > > Let me put it this way, It would be illegal for me to take ANY book,
> scan
> > > it, and post it online to the general public. The same as if I took
the
> > > files, ran off 1,000 coppies on my Xerox printer (which I am more than
> > > capable of doing) and sold them on e-bay.
> > >
> > > In no way would doing this (the project) be considered distribution
> > because
> > > (a) the general public does not have access and (b) a person has the
> right
> > > to put something he bought into an accessable format for personal use.
> > >
> > > At this point, I'm not even sure I can get enough interest in this
> project
> > > to make it worthwhile. If there is enough interest, I am sure a
private
> > > orginization like ourselves has the right to have a private collection
> for
> > > use over electronic means.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Gary Hedlin
> > > "The Crazy Quadraplegic"
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> > > ragingquad@yahoo.com (personal)
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> > >
> > > "Michael Clark" <dml@mikesdakota.com> wrote in message
> > > news:144209073343.20020614035425@mikesdakota.com...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Well, all I need is the manuals... The rest is easy.
> > > >
> > > > > Plus, I've got a lot of time on my hands annyway :)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You might want to think about the legal aspects of
> > > > posting whole manuals online. I'm sure the publishing
> > > > company that produces these manuals would love to turn
> > > > their legal department loose on something like this.
> > > > It would be GREAT if you could do this though. I would
> > > > just hate to see you go to all that trouble, just to
> > > > get into serious trouble...
> > > >
> > > > --Mike
> > > > www.mikesdakota.com
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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