If you decide to do that please let me know so I can un-subscribe. I've
seen copyright and trademark infringement lawsuits and I'm sorry but I don't
want to be a party to any of that. If you think that just making a few
copies is okay you better think again. DC can sue you for a single copy and
attempt to recover those damages that could occur if that copy continued to
be forwarded. These laws are tough, especially when you're trying to put
the screws on a big corporation. The e-mails on this forum are all archived
and it's public information. Don't think that DC doesn't look at us.
They've known about us for years. I'm not trying to rain on your parade.
I'm trying to hand you an umbrella.
Ron
00 PB SLT QC 4X2 5.9 46RE 3.92 LSD
For modifications see my DML Profile (URL follows)
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
[mailto:owner-dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net]On Behalf Of Eric Jerman
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 6:03 PM
To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
Subject: Re: DML: Re: RE: Service Manuals Project
Gary,
Couldn't you just save it to a file on a disk or something and just send
it to each individual person that wants it through email or something? That
way we could all save it to our hard drive for future reference. There's no
way to track that is there? Better than posting it and risking legal
problems down the road! I know it would be a pain to do it that way, but
the thought just crossed my mind so I thought I'd throw in my .02. Perhaps
it's not feasible because it would be so large of a file? I don't know. It
would be best I think to take individual requests even though it may take
some time (which you said you have lots of) and perhaps not too many people
would want a copy ( I know that I do though). Hope that helps some...
Eric Jerman
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Hedlin" <ghedlin@theramp.net>
To: <dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net>
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: DML: Re: RE: Service Manuals Project
>
> Guys.... this is not brain surgery! Splitting hairs will get us nowhere.
>
> I've got 3 people that want to do this already. I think if we kept this
> between ourselves, nobody's going to complain. Agian, if we already own
the
> manuals, creating the PDF files is well within our rights. As far as
> sharing them, well we may need to explore our options.
>
> I would rather do the work, send the PDF files to the owner of the manual,
> and let them decide where they want to go.
>
>
> --
> Gary Hedlin
> "The Crazy Quadraplegic"
> ghedlin@theramp.net (business)
> ragingquad@yahoo.com (personal)
> **Also Webmaster For**
> http://garyhedlin.com
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>
> ""Andy Levy"" <andylevy@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:aecsih$3id$1@bent.twistedbits.net...
> >
> > You really think it will be that anonymous? We leave a trail
everywhere.
> > They can find the DML archives. The hosting ISP could give up logs and
> > names when lawysers threaten.
> >
> > "aww, c'mon, who's gonna get hurt" really isn't a valid defense against
> > this. The FSM states on PAGE ONE that any storage & distribution of the
> > contents is prohiubited without express consent from Chrysler.
> >
> > ""Martin Nowak"" <got-speed@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:aecr29$2je$1@bent.twistedbits.net...
> > >
> > > There is intrest in the project....Count me.
> > >
> > > One thing that comes to mind is just doing it (the electronic copy)
and
> > toss
> > > it out on the web on a site somewhere. If by chance chrysler did find
> it,
> > > who would they blame ?? Noone. They would just ask the hosting isp to
> take
> > > it down.
> > >
> > > Marty
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ""Gary Hedlin"" <ghedlin@theramp.net> wrote in message
> > > news:aecd9o$qig$1@bent.twistedbits.net...
> > > >
> > > > I've ran into this problem before. As far as the manuals being
> > accessable
> > > > to the general public, there's no way I would even THINK about doing
> > this
> > > > unless there were controlls put in place to only allow certian
people
> to
> > > > access them. They WILL NOT be available to the general public.
> > > >
> > > > Let me put it this way, It would be illegal for me to take ANY
book,
> > scan
> > > > it, and post it online to the general public. The same as if I took
> the
> > > > files, ran off 1,000 coppies on my Xerox printer (which I am more
than
> > > > capable of doing) and sold them on e-bay.
> > > >
> > > > In no way would doing this (the project) be considered distribution
> > > because
> > > > (a) the general public does not have access and (b) a person has the
> > right
> > > > to put something he bought into an accessable format for personal
use.
> > > >
> > > > At this point, I'm not even sure I can get enough interest in this
> > project
> > > > to make it worthwhile. If there is enough interest, I am sure a
> private
> > > > orginization like ourselves has the right to have a private
collection
> > for
> > > > use over electronic means.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Gary Hedlin
> > > > "The Crazy Quadraplegic"
> > > > ghedlin@theramp.net (business)
> > > > ragingquad@yahoo.com (personal)
> > > > **Also Webmaster For**
> > > > http://garyhedlin.com
> > > > http://socaldakota.com
> > > > http://scsilverdak.com
> > > > http://assistivetechnologies.com
> > > > ...And Many More!
> > > >
> > > > "Michael Clark" <dml@mikesdakota.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:144209073343.20020614035425@mikesdakota.com...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Well, all I need is the manuals... The rest is easy.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Plus, I've got a lot of time on my hands annyway :)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > You might want to think about the legal aspects of
> > > > > posting whole manuals online. I'm sure the publishing
> > > > > company that produces these manuals would love to turn
> > > > > their legal department loose on something like this.
> > > > > It would be GREAT if you could do this though. I would
> > > > > just hate to see you go to all that trouble, just to
> > > > > get into serious trouble...
> > > > >
> > > > > --Mike
> > > > > www.mikesdakota.com
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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