You think that 6 drinks gas. My 5.9 thinks it's in a guzzling contest
constantly. Of course, my right foot doesn't help it any. ;-P
Ron
00 PB SLT QC 4X2 5.9 46RE 3.92 LSD
For modifications see my DML Profile (URL follows)
http://www.twistedbits.net/WWWProfile/dakota/Kw9pV1EkFeOYY
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
[mailto:owner-dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net]On Behalf Of MAGNUM S/T
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 5:17 PM
To: dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net
Subject: DML: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: : IAT Adjuster probs
Thanks Ron that helps. I'm definitely not running a 'stocker', as I have
accumulated a number of mods since I bought the Dak.....I think its as easy
as I expected too much.
Sometimes it seems people stress the increase in HP via the 'butt dyno' a
bit too much. I recall reading several threads on people being amazed at how
their truck screams now that it has a K&N....granted...when I replaced my
stock box with a K&N intake setup, I noticed an improvement....but my 6er
aint 'screamin'...unless you include the fact that it SCREAMS FOR GAS every
other day :)
Thanks all for the input
Kevin
""Ronald Wong"" <ron-wong@cox.net> wrote in message
news:NDBBIHDGKKJOIJDEOCBMAEBEFMAA.ron-wong@cox.net...
>
> Hi Kevin,
>
> Yes, there is more going on. With the adjuster you can fool the engine
into
> thinking it's getting denser air and the PCM will bump the timing slightly
> and give you a little more fuel, but (and I stress the but) the air is not
> really denser. Your engine loves dense air, the kind that's right around
> 45ºF. Since it's optimum burn rate of fuel and the time when it does it
is
> based on the dense air, that's when it works the best. Now, it tries to
> adjust when the air is thinner or warmer but it's not going to produce the
> power that it does when the air is 45º. That's why these K&N FIPK's
include
> a heat shield. The temperature of the air going into your engine does
make
> a difference. There was a person trying to develop his A/C system to push
> cold air through his input. The theory is: the A/C compressor uses up
about
> 4 hp but that cold air develops at least 10 times that amount in hp, at
> least on a Viper. That system is for sale but it's really expensive.
It's
> called a Pre Chiller.
>
> Ron
> 00 PB SLT QC 4X2 5.9 46RE 3.92 LSD
> For modifications see my DML Profile (URL follows)
> http://www.twistedbits.net/WWWProfile/dakota/Kw9pV1EkFeOYY
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net]On Behalf Of MAGNUM S/T
> Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 5:42 PM
> To: dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net
> Subject: DML: Re: RE: Re: : IAT Adjuster probs
>
>
>
> Thanx Ron...no I'm just plain ole depressed :)
>
> I suppose I was basing my expectations on what other apparently
experienced.
> All I know is on chilly mornings, the Dak has NOTICEABLY (butt dyno) more
> power/quicker response than on the hot days. My expectation of the IAT
> adjuster was that I would get the same effect without the need for a 'cold
> morning'. I don;'t claim to know allot about the computer side of things,
> but my guess is that there is more going on than simply the IAT to give me
> that increased response on the chilly days?
>
> I'm keeping my IAT adjuster regardless......it certainly didn't make
> anything worse....and if there is a cumulative effect I'll keep adding
more
> mods ;)...there are worse things in this life to do.
>
> Later
> ""Ronald Wong"" <ron-wong@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:NDBBIHDGKKJOIJDEOCBMOEAFFMAA.ron-wong@cox.net...
> >
> > I think a lot of people expect way too much out of this thing. All
these
> > mods that you buy go hand in hand with each other. Don't expect a $30
> mod
> > to give you 30 hp. It ain't gonna happen. The IAT adjuster changes the
> > calculations that determine the A/F mixture optimization tables. You
> > probably won't feel the minute changes. You may hear some differences
as
> > the timing changes and this may cause more or less pinging. But it
isn't
> > going to grab you by the seat of your pants and add 200 lb/ft of torque
to
> > your engine. HP/torque costs a lot of money and as you acquire the less
> > costly options and feel the need for speed each additional HP after that
> is
> > going to be quite expensive. Not only that, but if you start choosing
> some
> > of the more expensive options and do not choose others, you may find
> > yourself with very expensive repair or overhaul bills. At that point it
> no
> > longer is an option.
> >
> > Ron
> > 00 PB SLT QC 4X2 5.9 46RE 3.92 LSD
> > For modifications see my DML Profile (URL follows)
> > http://www.twistedbits.net/WWWProfile/dakota/Kw9pV1EkFeOYY
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net]On Behalf Of Ken Allgood
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 2:20 PM
> > To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> > Subject: DML: Re: : IAT Adjuster probs
> >
> >
> >
> > While I haven't really noticed a lot of difference from the butt Dyno, I
> did
> > do a check once to test it out... I have an OBD-II scanner that lets me
> get
> > all my sensor readouts (one that hooks up to laptop).. with the IAT
> adjuster
> > off, I'd be sitting at 180+ on my IAT.. Kill engine, turn it on, turn
> > engine back on.. IAT is now within 10 degrees of what the Dial is set
> for..
> > so if my dial is set at 40, I read somewhere between 30 - 35. So, mine
is
> > definitely working.. However, by the butt dyno, I have done WOT runs
on
> > the local roads with and without my hypertech PCM hooked up, and have
> > noticed 0 difference, except for the occasinal extra pinging.. thou my
MPG
> > did go up by about 1mpg with the PCM, but had to start using 93 octane
as
> > well.
> >
> > Ken Allgood
> > 97 CC SLT 5.2L
> > *Still waiting on my F&B Throttle Body!! ARRRGGHHH Must... Have...
more..
> > POWER!!! (Tim "the toolman" Taylor *grunt*)
> >
> > > Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 17:05:19 -0400
> > > From: "MAGNUM S/T" <khoegen@charter.net>
> > > Subject: DML: IAT Adjuster probs
> > >
> > > This is for anyone who has the IAT adjuster. I installed mine last
year
> > and
> > > I got to say....absolutely no difference when it is on or off.....no
> > matter
> > > where I put the dial?
> > >
> > > I spent a good day on it when I installed it last summer...but it
never
> > > seemed to work. I'm wondering if anyone else had this prob and what
the
> > > possible solution is.
> > >
> > > Now that it is summer again...I started thinking about it.
> > >
> > > TIA
> > >
> > > - --
> > > Kevin
> > > http://webpages.charter.net/khoegen
> > > Home of the "MAGNUM S/T"
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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