Re: More ball joint stuff.....

From: Ed McCarrick (edmccarrick@yahoo.com)
Date: Thu Nov 14 2002 - 08:25:28 EST


Ray,

I believe that was meant as a joke, I hope :-)

Ed
--- raymond.irons@gm.com wrote:
>
>
> Is this for real? I certainly hope not........
>
> <snip> First, all service department
> >literature pertaining to these components shall be
> >updated from 1/4" allowable measured play in the
> joint
> >to a radical new 3/4" allowable measured
> play, effective immediately. This will allay all
> >customer concerns, and most importantly, reduce
> cost!
>
> Hmmm, increasing allowable play from 1/4 inch to 3/4
> inch. That's a awfully
> large increase. And it certainly won't allay this
> customers concerns. I
> wonder if DC is taking into consideration, referring
> to cost reduction, the
> increase in legal fees stemming from lawsuits
> against the company after
> vehicles start having accidents due to, IMHO,
> excessive play in the ball
> joints.
>
> >The next step is the complete redesign of the ball
> >joints for upcoming models, with the earliest
> target
> >date projected to be around the fall of 2010.
>
> 2010???!!!! This seems to be way too much time to
> re-design a ball joint
> when Moog has a ball joint set up that "fixes" this
> problem. Seems DC just
> doesn't want to spend the cash to fix this problem
> right the first time,
> even if they have to pass the cost along to the
> consumer.
>
> >Although some ideas for this redesign are still
> pending, one of
> >the more promising concepts involves the use of a
> >lubed-for-life copper/glass composite bushing, with
> a
> >high-strength flexible plastic dowel pin, to
> provide
> >the torsional dynamic, and to a much lesser
> degree, structural integrity and durability.
>
>
> I'm from the old school and I still don't agree with
> the theory of "Lubed
> for life" joints and bushings. And I don't know
> about anyone else, but the
> idea of a plastic dowel pin being used in a critical
> suspension component
> would cause me concern.
>
>
> >One of the more daunting challenges with this
> particular design
> >will be the actual retention of the wheel assembly
> on
> >the vehicle, even in a standstill condition.
>
> They are seriously considering a design that has
> problems with wheel
> staying on the vehicle while not even moving? Lord
> help me I might have to
> start looking at Fords!
>
> Nevertheless, the main goal is to greatly reduce
> cost
> >from our vendors, while at the same time, ensure
> that
> >the quality and dependability of all of our
> suspension
> >components meet some of the less stringent legal
> >requirements.
>
> Same old bullsh**. The company is looking to reduce
> costs any way possible,
> even if it means compromising the safety of the
> owner and skirts the
> legality of the vehicle design. To me this means
> build it cheap and hope
> there aren't enough accidents to cause the NTSB to
> force us to issue a
> recall and another re-design of the suspension.
>
> Just my 3 cents worth. Inflation catches up with all
> of us.....except major
> corporations, that is.
>
>
> Ray Irons
> Dover, DE
>

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