Yeah, I decided to not get it. I looked down in my intake, and there's only
a very thin film on the bottm, not like there's a puddle down there, so I
don't think it's my Belly Pan Gasket
Ken Allgood
97 CC SLT 5.2L
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Barnes" <barnesrv@attbi.com>
To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 4:10 PM
Subject: RE: Re: DML: M-1 Intake gains?
>
> Its already at $305...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of
> kenallgood@cox.net
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 3:48 PM
> To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> Subject: RE: Re: DML: M-1 Intake gains?
>
>
> Yeah, I'm thinking I'm willing to go up to about $300. After taking
> shipping on that, you're talking $320+, and seeing you can get it for
around
> $400 shipped brand new.....
>
> Don't let me stop you though, I'm not even sure if I'm going to get it.
If
> I don't need to replace my belly pan gasket, I won't do it. It was up to
> $260 last time I checked, looks pretty good.
>
> Ken Allgood
> 97 CC SLT 5.2L
>
> >
> > From: "Rick Barnes" <barnesrv@attbi.com>
> > Date: 2003/04/01 Tue PM 02:48:03 EST
> > To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
> > Subject: RE: Re: DML: M-1 Intake gains?
> >
> >
> > I was going to bid too Ken, but go for it, I think anything under $325
is
> > likely a good deal.
> >
> > Rascal
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of
> > kenallgood@cox.net
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 1:03 PM
> > To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> > Subject: Re: Re: DML: M-1 Intake gains?
> >
> >
> > Yup, picked up a nice Torque Wrench when I was checking out the rockers
on
> > my Probe, and had to use it to install the studs for my 1.7 rockers on
the
> > Dakota.. Love that Torque wrench :)
> >
> > Actually, I was thinking about buying that intake that is on ebay right
> now
> > (ends today), trying to decide if I want to buy that one or not. Thanks
> for
> > the input (u 2 ray)
> >
> > Ken Allgood
> > 97 CC SLT 5.2L
> >
> > >
> > > From: jon@dakota-truck.net
> > > Date: 2003/04/01 Tue PM 12:35:44 EST
> > > To: dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net
> > > Subject: Re: DML: M-1 Intake gains?
> > >
> > >
> > > kenallgood@cox.net wrote:
> > > [...]
> > > : It's my understanding that to do the Belly pan gasket, you have to
> > remove the intake manifold etc, right (not sure exactly what the belly
pan
> > gasket is, just how to tell if it's blown..hehe)? If so, figured since
> > while it's apart, might as well put a better intake manifold on....
> > Especially if I get a good deal :)
> > >
> > >
> > > That is correct - to fix the belly pan gasket, the entire intake
> > > manifold must be removed.
> > >
> > >
> > > :What are the pros and cons with going this route?? Thanks
> > >
> > >
> > > The pros are no more belly pan problems, increased performance and
> > > fuel economy.
> > >
> > > The cons are a higher cost, and depending on the emissions
situation
> > > where you live, if a visual inspection is required, there might be a
> > > problem passing the visual portion of the emissions test.
> > >
> > > Regarding the cost, be aware of the little "extras" which can add up.
> > > The manifold itself is around 60-75% of your total expense. The 2bbl
> > > (P5007398 for '92-95 or P5007852 for '96+) is around $330 and the
> > > 4bbl (P5249816) is about $240. Don't forget to add in the cost of an
> > > installation kit; Mopar makes one for the 2bbl (P5007638) which is
> > > about $60. Mopar does not have a 4bbl installation kit so you will
> > > need to fabricate it yourself or purchase an aftermarket one, such
> > > as the one I make at steigerperformance.com (shameless plug) ;-)
> > > Figure on $70-90 for that, depending on your truck's model year and
> > > options. You will also need an intake gasket kit (4897383AC) which
> > > is $20-30 (but you would need that even if you were just reinstalling
> > > your stock intake manifold). Since you've got high mileage, plan on
> > > spending the $5-10 on a new bypass hose (H0063735). If your truck is
> > > a 1995 or older, and you are installing the 4bbl intake, you would
> > > need a new exhaust manifold EGR gasket (53010000) ($2) for the
blockoff
> > > plate, and if it is a '92-95 and you are installing the 2bbl, you
would
> > > also need a new intake manifold EGR gasket (sorry, I don't have a part
> > > number on this one, I think its a few dollars). You can probably
> > > re-use your throttle body gasket, but if not a new one is only $2
> > > (53030541). If you are installing the 2bbl, I believe your current
> > > thermostat and thermostat housing will swap right over, but if you are
> > > installing the 4bbl, you will need a new thermostat (about $5-10 at
any
> > > parts store) and a thermostat housing (P4286759) which is $10-15. In
> > > either case, plan on spending a few cents on a thermostat gasket.
> > > (All part numbers listed above are Mopar.)
> > >
> > > Don't forget the RTV, thread locker, and anti-sieze. ($10-15)
> > >
> > > So, all total, you would probably be looking at about $440 to
install
> > > the 2bbl and around $385 to install the 4bbl, and about $50 to to
> > > re-install your stock intake. Keep in mind that none of the prices
> > > I have listed include shipping, so plan on that, or tax if you will be
> > > purchasing them locally. Mail order is probably the cheapest route,
and
>
> > > if you can order everything at once from one source you can probably
> keep
> > > the shipping costs to a minimum. (You will still need to go to the
> > > parts store for RTV, the thermostat, etc.) Also, the prices listed
> > > were about what you could expect to pay from a retailer; if you find
> > > a used intake on e-bay or something, you can obviously do it for less.
> > >
> > > An optional step, with whichever intake you install would be to
> > > hit it with some clear, high temp spray paint to ward off corrosion
> > > and keep it looking nice.
> > >
> > > I may have overlooked a couple of items (like assuming that you
> > > have access to a torque wrench) but that should give you a decent
> > > idea of what is involved. I hope it helps!
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > -Jon-
> > >
> > > .---- Jon Steiger ------ jon@dakota-truck.net or jon@jonsteiger.com
> > ------.
> > > | I'm the: AOPA, DoD, EAA, NMA, NRA, SPA, USUA. Rec & UL Pilot -
> SEL
> > |
> > > | 70 Cuda, 90 Dak 'vert, 92 Ram 4x4, 96 Dak, 96 Intruder 1400, 96
> FireFly
> > |
> > > `------------------------------------------ http://www.jonsteiger.com
> > ----'
> > >
> >
> >
>
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