Re: Used MP PCM

From: Gary Hedlin (ghedlin@theramp.net)
Date: Thu Feb 19 2004 - 22:03:17 EST


MY POINT IS YOU ARE WRONG FOR INSINUATING CHAD MADE EITHER A FALSE OR
ERRONIOUAS STATEMENT BY CITING AN EXAMPLE WHERE THE SUPERCHIPS OUTPERFORMED
THE MOPAR PCM.

IS THIS CLEAR ENOUGH???

On 2/19/04 8:58 PM, in article Law12-F71HxYHLBQhEx00000588@hotmail.com,
""greg conner"" <dodgeboy93@hotmail.com> wrote:

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> What point was that again??
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> :)
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> Greg Conner
> 1996 RC
> 3.9 hybrid
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>> From: Gary Hedlin <ghedlin@theramp.net>
>> Reply-To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
>> To: dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net
>> Subject: Re: DML: Used MP PCM
>> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 20:44:47 -0600
>>
>>
>> Yeah, make your claims, make a personal attack, and then leave..... Nice
>> way
>> to prove a point.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/19/04 8:38 PM, in article LAW12-F29GkzMcvsq9I00000661@hotmail.com,
>> ""greg conner"" <dodgeboy93@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Jesus gary, I really dont want to get back into this but how is
>> supplying
>>> the email of a guy running a superchips tuner providing facts its better
>>> than a mopar pcm.
>>>
>>> As far as the rest, it was sealed with the "right stuff" an extremely
>> heavy
>>> duty rtv. Its actually fairly widely used as a replacement for the
>> plenum
>>> gasket. Sorry the inside wasnt mirror polished, i guess you know best.
>>>
>>> I'm sorry I dont post useless BS all the time. I'll try to become more
>>> active for ya.
>>>
>>> I'm done with this.......
>>>
>>>
>>> Greg Conner
>>> 1996 RC
>>> 3.9 hybrid
>>>
>>>
>>> j
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: Gary Hedlin <ghedlin@theramp.net>
>>>> Reply-To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
>>>> To: dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net
>>>> Subject: Re: DML: Used MP PCM
>>>> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 20:15:11 -0600
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2/19/04 7:47 PM, in article Law12-F41hr3y9jkLqP0000032e@hotmail.com,
>>>> ""greg conner"" <dodgeboy93@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "no greg, it is an attack. Siting an example of the product being
>> used
>>>> sure
>>>>> as hell isn't making a misleading, or erroneous claim."-gary
>>>>>
>>>>> "the superchips works way better than the mopar pcm on a 2000
>> r/t."-chad
>>>>>
>>>>> How is that just siting an example? Looks like its suggesting a
>> product
>>>> to
>>>>> me with no back. just beacuse some guy used it that has a 408 doesnt
>>>> really
>>>>> support anything. But whatever.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, but you forgot the second part of his statement, in which he
>> sites
>>>> his
>>>> example.... QUOTE: "> >I can give you the email of the guy that has one
>> on
>>>> his 2000 r/t."
>>>>
>>>> So there YOU go, taking stuff out of context to suite YOUR opinions!!
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "For the past several months you've been hounding me on AIM for info
>> on
>>>> what
>>>>> both me and chad have been doing.... I knew any info I gave you would
>> be
>>>>> relayed to someone else. This is nothing but a full blown goddamn
>>>> attack,
>>>>> and everyone here knows it."-gary
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you f'n kidding me. LMFAO Do you also have conspiracy theories
>>>> about
>>>>> the government listening in on your thoughts?? Me hounding you on
>>>> aim??? I
>>>>> think the only time I have corresponded with you via aim in the last
>> few
>>>>> months was when I was asking to buy back the injectors I had sold you
>>>> last
>>>>> year since you did not use them. Info relayed to someone else?lol Is
>>>> this
>>>>> some kind of dakota conspiracy theory you thought up? Is KRC, The
>>>> Fastman,
>>>>> and GS motorsports all listening in on your top secrete dakota phone
>>>>> conversations?lol
>>>>
>>>> If you think this is a joke, you've got your head so far up your a$$
>> its
>>>> not
>>>> funny. I do find it funny how KRC is first on that list being youre so
>>>> close to them.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not attacking anyone, I have no problem with you, chad or anyone
>>>> else on
>>>>> this list. You need to cool it with the conspiracy theory.
>>>>
>>>> No greg, this is not some conspiracy theory... It's just I find it odd
>> you
>>>> of all people, who hasnąt posted in a long time, come out looking for
>> blood
>>>> when chad made that post. I simply called you on it.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "I think I might post some pics of that intake manifold you sent
>>>>> me....Maybee
>>>>> when they see that and what I paid for it, they'll know exactly what
>>>> type of
>>>>> person you really are."- gary
>>>>>
>>>>> Once again, wtf? I sent you a mildly cleaned up manifold. Trimmed
>>>> runners,
>>>>> opened up bores, and all sandplasted and sealed. You said you were
>> very
>>>>> happy with it. If you werent I would of taken it back. This was like
>> 2
>>>>> years ago gary!
>>>>
>>>> Again, wrong info.... I got that from you in august, not 2 years ago.
>> It
>>>> was not sandblasted because it still had the gouges from the dremel
>> tool
>>>> where you did your porting, And yes, it was sealed....but only with
>> RTV. I
>>>> sure as hell wasn't happy when me & ron opened it up to find the gobs
>> of
>>>> RTV!!
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This crap is way more than a personal attack that anything I have ever
>>>>> posted. If you need to continue your personal vendetta against me and
>>>>> conspiracy theories email me offlist. I dont think this the DML needs
>>>> this
>>>>> craziness cluttering it up.
>>>>
>>>> Me, starting a personal attack?? The only thing Im doing is defending
>>>> myself from one. Or do "conspiracy theories" donąt apply???
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dak content.... umm, mine needs a bath.........
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Greg Conner
>>>>> 1996 RC
>>>>> 3.9 hybrid
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Gary Hedlin <ghedlin@theramp.net>
>>>>>> Reply-To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
>>>>>> To: dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net
>>>>>> Subject: Re: DML: Used MP PCM
>>>>>> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 19:02:37 -0600
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/19/04 1:27 PM, in article
>> Law12-F74qceSkScfpV0000321e@hotmail.com,
>>>>>> ""greg conner"" <dodgeboy93@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Who else tries to push anything especially without being backed by
>> any
>>>>>> data?
>>>>>>> I dont consider this the proper forum to push ones sales especially
>> if
>>>>>> one
>>>>>>> is making missleading or uneducated claims to do so. This forum is
>>>> for
>>>>>>> helping out fellow dakota owners. Providing unbacked or missleading
>>>>>>> information about a product because one just happens to sell it or
>>>> make
>>>>>> more
>>>>>>> money off it isnt what I would consider helping another owner. Not
>> an
>>>>>>> attack, just my opinion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No greg, it is an attack. Siting an example of the product being
>> used
>>>> sure
>>>>>> as hell isn't making a misleading, or erroneous claim. Just because
>>>> theres
>>>>>> no dyno graphs proving it, doesn't mean it's misleading. And to add
>> to
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> you could even debate the validity of anyone posting dyno graphs,
>>>> wether
>>>>>> they were modified with photoshop, or if other modifications were
>> made
>>>>>> prior to the comparison run.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For the past several months you've been hounding me on AIM for info
>> on
>>>> what
>>>>>> both me and chad have been doing.... I knew any info I gave you would
>>>> be
>>>>>> relayed to someone else. This is nothing but a full blown goddamn
>>>> attack,
>>>>>> and everyone here knows it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think I might post some pics of that intake manifold you sent
>>>>>> me....Maybee
>>>>>> when they see that and what I paid for it, they'll know exactly what
>>>> type
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> person you really are.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Gary Hedlin
>>>>>> 98 3.9 RC Sport
>>>>>> http://garysdakota.1colony.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From: Gary Hedlin <ghedlin@theramp.net>
>>>>>>>> Reply-To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
>>>>>>>> To: dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: DML: Used MP PCM
>>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 10:53:17 -0600
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Greg,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How come whenever anoyone else tries to push anything, we never
>> hear
>>>> a
>>>>>> peep
>>>>>>>> from you?? I find it pretty damn ironic....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> BTW: Wheres YOUR proof the Mopar PCM is better??
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Gary Hedlin
>>>>>>>> 98 3.9 RC Sport
>>>>>>>> http://garysdakota.1colony.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2/19/04 8:52 AM, in article
>>>> Law12-F49vjx3zbovr20006c94c@hotmail.com,
>>>>>>>> ""greg conner"" <dodgeboy93@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just because you make more money off a superchips than a mopar
>> isnt
>>>> a
>>>>>>>> reason
>>>>>>>>> to push it on this list. The mopar pcm is the way to go over the
>>>>>>>> superchips
>>>>>>>>> programmer for all out performance....
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Greg Conner
>>>>>>>>> 1996 RC
>>>>>>>>> 3.9 hybrid
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> From: "Chad Evans" <hemidak@msn.com>
>>>>>>>>>> Reply-To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
>>>>>>>>>> To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: DML: Used MP PCM
>>>>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 07:31:14 -0600
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the superchips works way better than the mopar pcm on a 2000 r/t.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I can give you the email of the guy that has one on his 2000 r/t.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> email me off list if you want it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>> From: "Bernd D. Ratsch" <fasstdak@hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 7:19 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: DML: Used MP PCM
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> No, the R/T's come with a standard PCM (nothing fancy about
>> them).
>>>>>> On
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> used MP PCM, the '99 "may" work, but they changed some of the
>> code
>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> '00 models and some items may not work. Also, if the VIN has
>> been
>>>>>>>>>>> programmed into the PCM, you're SOL.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> - Bernd
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of
>> andy
>>>>>>>> levy
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 7:03 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> To: dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: DML: Used MP PCM
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/18/2004 7:58 PM, Ed Estoppey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> | hey all,
>>>>>>>>>>> | I have a chance to get a used Mopar Performance PCM from a
>> 1999
>>>>>> Dak
>>>>>>>>>>> | R/T. Will this work on my 2000 R/T, or will I have to get one
>>>>>>>> specific
>>>>>>>>>>> | to
>>>>>>>>>>> my year
>>>>>>>>>>> | and Vin??
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Doesn't the R/T come with an MP PCM out of the factory? Or is
>>>> this
>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>> "above and beyond" one?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> - --
>>>>>>>>>>> - -andy
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://home.twcny.rr.com/andylevy/dakota - andy-dml@levyclan.us
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