Re: Overhead Consoles

From: jon@dakota-truck.net
Date: Mon Apr 05 2004 - 23:56:52 EDT


datteber@davesworld.net wrote:

: I believe what he's asking, and I've been wondering myself, also,
: is there an aftermarket company making these. Making quality
: ones like OEM, not cheap plastic and fabric.

   I've seen pics of aftermarket consoles out there, but never in
person so I don't know about the quality.

: Or, what'd be more likely affordable: what vehicles came with these that
: I can scrounge the salvage yard for... Dakotas/Durangos, obviously,
: but also Caravans? Intrepids?

   All of the above, and more. :-) You name it, just about every
late model Mopar built has been offered with an overhead console.
(Yes, there are exceptions, that's why I said "just about") :-)

  There are a few things to be aware of:

     Fit - Unless you get a console designed for the same vehicle as
           yours, expect to make some modifications to the console
           and/or vehicle to mount it.

  Finish - Similar to fit, expect to make some mods to actually
           make it look right (might require trimming, paint,
           replacing the fabric, etc.)

Function - This depends on what type of console you want to use,
           and what features it has. Many consoles provide not
           much more than a couple of lights and maybe a sunglasses
           holder. (Some don't even have lights.) Obviously, these
           are easy to wire up - at most, you need a power and a
           ground (and the ground you can probably get right from
           the the roof itself.) Add in a compass and thermometer,
           and it becomes more tricky - the compass is internal but
           you need to know how the thermometer gets its signal.
           Older vehicles used a dedicated temp sensor which was
           usually mounted just behind the grille. However, most
           (maybe all) of the late model vehicles have reverted to
           getting the temp signal from the PCM. The type with
           the separate temp sensor shouldn't be too bad; you just
           need to make sure you get the sensor with the console,
           or purchase one separately, and make sure you wire it
           up correctly. If the signal comes from the computer,
           you need to know more about how that happens to determine
           wether you can make it work in your vehicle. Taking things
           a bit further in complexity, you can have functions like
           the trip computer, gas mileage, etc. Once you get to that
           stage, the only real connection to the console is a
           data transfer line to transmit digital signals between
           the console and the computer. At this level, you probably
           need a console designed for your specific vehicle.

   I have a Jeep Grand Cherokee console which I am planning to install
in my '70 Barracuda. It has a compass and temp display (with a dedicated
temp sensor). I haven't actually done the install yet, but have done
some research on the subject and have run across a speed bump or two
on the way, hopefully the above info will make your journey a bit more
smooth. :-) Basically, my recommendation would be to either find a
console designed for your exact vehicle, or if you plan to go the homebrew
route, I wouldn't go any more complex than a console with the temp and
compass, but only if it uses a dedicated temp sensor, and doesn't get
the temp signal from the computer.

 I hope that helps!

-- 
                                          -Jon-

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