RE: RE: Re: RE: RE: Setting Distributor Drive Timing (Fuel Sync) without DRB

From: greg conner (dodgeboy93@hotmail.com)
Date: Sun Jun 13 2004 - 16:36:04 EDT


The voltmeter approach is fairly accurate. I've set the sync on quite a few
trucks with a voltmeter then later checked it with a scantool. The
voltmeter approach has allways gotten me + - 2 deg of being dead on if not
dead on. The best way is still to set it with a scantool.

As far as oil pump driveshaft orientation goes, on both the magnum and la
engines the slot in the drive shaft gear is to be pointing one tooth
conterclockwise of straight ahead, as bernd stated earlier. The slot will
actually be pointing at the the number 1 cylinder front intake bolt hole.

Greg Conner
1996 RC
3.9 hybrid

>From: "Bernd D. Ratsch" <fasstdak@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
>To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
>Subject: DML: RE: Re: RE: RE: Setting Distributor Drive Timing (Fuel Sync)
>without DRB
>Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 14:29:16 -0500
>
>
>On some of the older ('94 and older) vehicles, you can't set the sync with
>the DRB. Is the voltmeter way inaccurate? Guess how DC techs were doing
>this before the DRB - voltmeter. While I respect KRC's opinion on how to
>set sync, they don't work for DC.
>
>Proper way is still with the DRB (or any scanner that can show Fuel Sync -
>SnapOn MT2500 for example) - just make sure you install the distributor
>correctly (aligned properly).
>
>- Bernd
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
>[mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of BlackDak93
>Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 1:16 PM
>To: dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net
>Subject: DML: Re: RE: RE: Setting Distributor Drive Timing (Fuel Sync)
>without DRB
>
>
>
>If I read KRC's procedure correctly, they are talking about setting the
>timing mark to TDC for timing the distributor, not setting fuel sync. Their
>procedure does not state how to set fuel sync with a voltmeter, as they say
>it is inaccurate. The procedure below addresses how to set the initial sync
>without a DRB scan tool. I think this is the discrepancy.
>
>
>""Bernd D. Ratsch"" <fasstdak@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:000a01c4516f$b8915b10$020aa8c0@bernd...
> >
> > Yes...that's the official and correct way to set initial sync as per
> > DC.
>If
> > not set properly, you can had adverse performance. The proper way is
>still
> > to properly align the distributor and then set sync via the DRB or any
>other
> > scanner that shows Fuel Sync at 1000rpm (not to be set above or below
> > 1000rpm).
> >
> > - Bernd
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of James
> > Calder
> > Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 11:50 AM
> > To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> > Subject: DML: RE: Setting Distributor Drive Timing (Fuel Sync) without
>DRB
> >
> >
> >
> > There seems to be a discrepancy to as where the mark on the damper
> > should be. Some people say the damper should be right on the TDC mark
> > (like
>KRC's
> > write-up) while others say it needs to be advanced to the V8/V6 mark
> > on
>the
> > damper. If the procedure below is as per DC, what's the difference
> > when going by the actual TDC mark and not the V8/V6 mark? Can this
> > have an adverse affect?
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of Bernd D.
> > Ratsch
> > Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 9:17 AM
> > To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> > Subject: DML: Setting Distributor Drive Timing (Fuel Sync) without DRB
> >
> >
> >
> > This is a base setting for those without a DRB or other scanner that
> > shows Fuel Sync...but you still should have it checked for proper
> > setting on
>Fuel
> > Sync. Correct procedure from DC as well.
> >
> >
> > Distributor Indexing
> >
> > SYMPTOM/CONDITION:
> > Vehicles may exhibit surging, light bucking, or intermittent engine
> > misfiring. This will most likely occur when the vehicle is at
> > operating temperature, and under a light load at approximately 2000
> > RPM. This condition may be caused by a mis-indexed distributor. The
> > following procedure is an alternative to the indexing procedure
> > outlined in the service manual.
> >
> > REPAIR PROCEDURE:
> > This procedure outlines an alternative distributor indexing procedure.
> >
> > Connect a voltmeter to the distributor sensor connector by removing
> > the
>end
> > seal and carefully back probing the connector. Connect the positive
> > lead
>to
> > the sensor output pin (pin 3, either a tan wire with a yellow tracer
> > or a gray wire, depending on vehicle application). Connect the
> > negative lead to the sensor ground pin (pin 2, a black wire with a
> > light blue tracer). Rotate the engine clockwise as viewed from the
> > front, until the number one piston is at Top Dead Center (TDC) of the
> > compression stroke. The timing mark on the vibration damper should
> > line up with the zero degree (TDC)
>mark
> > on the timing chain case cover.
> > Continue to rotate the engine slowly clockwise until the V6 or V8 mark
> > (depending on engine type) lines up with the zero degree (TDC) mark on
> > the timing chain case cover. The V8 mark is 17.5°after TDC and the V6
> > mark is 147°after TDC. NOTE: DO NOT ROTATE THE ENGINE COUNTER
> > CLOCKWISE. IF THE ENGINE IS ROTATED BEYOND THE MARK, RETURN TO STEP 2
> > AND REPEAT THE PROCEDURE. Loosen the distributor clamp bolt.
> > With the ignition switch in the ON position, rotate the distributor
>slightly
> > in either direction until the voltmeter switches between the sensor
> > transition point of 0 and 5 volts. Adjust the distributor as close as
> > possible to either side of this transition point and tighten the
> > distributor clamp bolt to 19-26 N-m (170-230 in.lbs.) .
> >
> >
>
>

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