RE: RE: knocking after oil change

From: Pindell, Timothy (TPindell@otterbein.edu)
Date: Wed Dec 22 2004 - 09:04:07 EST


According to the Knize Study, Mopar filters were probably rebranded. At
that time, Mopar filters could have been made by any of three
manufacturers: Purolator, Champion or Fram. Perhaps Mopar filters are
not rebranded anymore. Who makes them now? Does the design resemble any
current major manufacturer? Are they manufactured by DC? Not trying to
be a jerk. I simply don't know. I've never cut any open myself.

It's so hard to keep up with the ever-changing world of oil filter
technology.

Tim

#-----Original Message-----
#From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net [mailto:owner-dakota-
#truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of Bernd D. Ratsch
#Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 9:11 PM
#To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
#Subject: RE: DML: RE: knocking after oil change
#
#
#I can tell you that they are NOT Fram filters. The element, spring,
#drain-back valve (also much more heavy duty that Mobil-1 or K&N), and
#method
#to put it all together doesn't even come close to the Fram filters -
any of
#them. We've cut quite a few filters apart to show customers the
difference
#and the Fram, Purolator, STP, and Pennzoil filters are not even close
to
#the
#Mopar.
#
#- Bernd
#
#-----Original Message-----
#From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
#[mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of
#david.clement@verizon.net
#Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 11:06 AM
#To: dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net
#Subject: RE: DML: RE: knocking after oil change
#
#
#FWIW, mopar filters are quite often the same FRAM filter that are also
#branded as Penzoil or Quaker State. When my son worked for the local
Dodge
#dealer he used to bring home filters for me. Many were obviously FRAM's
#others had an oblong hole that I could not ID the manufacturer of. If
you
#are looking for a consistently manufacturered filter I would stay away
from
#the mopar brand.
#
#Currently I am using Motorcraft filters (they have been rebranded
Purolator
#for the last couple of years). FL300 on the Dakota (no room for the
FL1A),
#FL1A on the Barracuda and FL400 on the PT. Less than $3 at Wal-Mart.
#
#Dave Clement
#
#In article <BAY101-DAV10D3D1730E073B1C4958AAD2A30@phx.gbl>,
#fasstdak@hotmail.com ("Bernd D. Ratsch") writes:
#>
#> Honestly, try to stay away from the Pennzoil (and other lower grade)
#> filters. The anti-drainback valve is either sub-standard or they
have
#> holes drilled in the base to allow for "quicker oil flow" (unfiltered
at
#that).
#> The Mopar filter is seriously one of the best out there. We see too
#> many "knocking on cold start" problems. We install the Mopar filter
#> and it goes away (even happened to me - used to run Mobil-1 and
#> they're an excellent filter as well).
#>
#> The other item could also be grundge in the oil pickup.
#>
#> - Bernd
#>
#> -----Original Message-----
#> From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
#> [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of Eric
#> Huff
#> Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 10:09 PM
#> To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
#> Subject: Re: DML: RE: knocking after oil change
#>
#>
#> > What oil filter are you using?
#>
#> This one is Penzoil PZ-34. I have used the same kind before, but not
#> in the last few changes.
#>
#> In case i wasn't clear enough, it doesn't do it at each start, it
just
#> did it when i first started it up after i filled it up with new oil.
#>
#> I did fill the filter with oil once before installing it. ("once"
#> meaning i poured oil in until it came to the top, but didn't keep
#> filling as the oil soaked into the filter.)
#>
#> Pretty much my normal procedure. It might be that i usu get more oil
#> in the filter, but not drastically more.
#>
#> The last oil change was done at the dealer, so it's possible that the
#> sound creeped up in 2 steps.
#>
#> Thanks,
#> eric
#>
#>
#> > -----Original Message-----
#> > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
#> > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of Eric
#> > Huff Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 8:28 PM
#> > To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
#> > Subject: DML: knocking after oil change
#> >
#> >
#> > After changing the oil on the dakota, i started it.
#> >
#> > I am used to a little "clacking" that i assume is lifters waiting
to
#> > get oil, but this time i heard "knocking" sounds that seemed louder
#> > than i remember (and deeper than the clacking).
#> >
#> > Any idea what this is a sign of?
#> >
#> > I used valvoline 10W30 like usual (though whenever i happen to get
#> > the oil changed with warranty work, they use penzoil, i think).



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