Re: Colorado campgrounds

From: Bill Day (billday@otecom.net)
Date: Sat Apr 09 2005 - 14:14:59 EDT


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jon@dakota-truck.net wrote:

>
> Josh Battles <josh@omg-stfu.com> wrote:
>
> : Jason Bleazard wrote:
> :>
> :> Yeah, I agree. The rules in an organized campground might be kind of a
> :> bummer, though. We'll probably have to just put up with some level of
> :> restrictions on noise level and bonfire size. But, I think we'll be
> :> better off someplace where we can get cleaned up, especially if we think
> :> we're going to want to be going in to town to check out museums or shops
> :> or whatever other touristy thing we might decide to do.
>
> : Definately. The rules don't really bother me much though, as long as
> : we're "reasonable and prudent" I don't see any problems. We'll just
> : have to make sure that the leprechaun dust stays at home for that trip.
>
>
> "Normal people reasonable" or "DML reasonable"? ;-)
>
>
> :> Another thing to think about is Internet access. It would be kind of cool
> :> to be able to set up a webcam or two and post real-time updates for anyone
> :> who can't make it. I found a list of campgrounds that have wireless
> :> access:
> :> http://rvtravel.com/publish/ontheroad/wifiwest.shtml#co
> :>
> :> Although I have no idea how comprehensive or accurate that list is, it's a
> :> good place to start.
>
> : You know, I'd thought about intarwebnet access but then dismissed it as
> : something that wasn't *really* important to me. Seriously, we're
> : camping out... In a way it's kinda sad really, that we can't unplug for
> : a week or so and just enjoy life. That's one of my favorite things
> : about the BBQ, that there really isn't a sense of time or anything, just
> : a bunch of people hanging out doing whatever. Besides, how much time do
> : we really spend on the web at Jon's anyway?
>
> : The only real use I could think of for this would be to post pics to the
> : list or something, but if we don't have it that's more of an enticement
> : for those who are iffy on attending, because there'll be no way to know
> : what's going on.
>
>
> Yep, I'm sort've torn on the 'net access issue myself. I guess where
> I'm at right now, I'm of the opinion that it would be cool if it were
> available, but I'm not going to lose much sleep over it if we can't manage
> it. As I see it, the main benefit would be to keep the list appraised
> of the goings-on. Tom did a great job during the last BBQ with his daily
> status updates, which not only keeps the list informed, but makes up for
> lapses in memory later on when trying to put together a meet report or
> just trying to remember what happened when. :-) (Granted, a "status
> report" could be written in notepad and saved for later, but without
> an imediate posting, the motiviation to do so might not be there.) :-)
>
> I suppose it would be sort've nice too to be able to take all of
> the digital pics everybody had taken for the day and just dump them
> to a web page somewhere (even if it were just a directory listing
> without thumbnails), just to give people something to look at.
>
> As far as having a webcam goes, at this point I'm not 100% sure how
> that might work out. We have one during the DML BBQ obviously, but I
> have a feeling its more of a novelty than anything else. :-) That is,
> you see so little through the eyes of the webcam, in the end I'm not sure
> how much value it truly is. You might see some people walking around,
> Daks parked in a row, etc. I guess the attraction would be "hey, that's
> the national DML meet and its live! I have no idea what they are doing
> right now, but they are doing it right NOW!" :-) Plus, we'll probably be
> away for most of the day doing offroading, drag racing, or tourist-y stuff
> (similar to how the BBQ cam is pretty boring most of the day until all the
> trucks come back). Unless of course we can figure out how to get a full
> video and sound feed wired into a DBDoMPfIWUMOT hat, and con Tom into
> wearing it around all day. :-)
>
> Another whole factor in the net access/webcam thing is we'd need a
> source of power. The best we can probably expect is a site with RV hookups
> which might allow us to charge up laptops and cellphones in Jason & Norah's
> camper, but I'm skeptical that we'd be able to get constant power throughout
> the meet. Generators might be an option, but they have limitations also.
> For example, I have a generator but trust me, you do NOT want to be anywhere
> near it when that thing is running! Plus, I think most campgrounds have
> rules about generators; the ones that allow them I think make you shut
> 'em off at a certain time so that everybody else can get to sleep. :-)
>
> As far as net access goes in general, does anyone have any suggestions
> or input in this area? I know there are a few DMLers who work in this
> industry... Basically my thoughts as far as possibilities are as follows:
>
> - Campground with WiFi access
>
> - Everyone with a WiFi card (802.11b I assume) could just access the
> provided signal. Depending on wether the campground charges or not
> and depending on the price, that might be cost prohibitive. A
> possibility here is for us to set up a wireless router and/or an
> ethernet hub to allow all DMLers to connect via one account.
>
>
> - Satellite
>
> - If anyone has something like DirecWay and feels like brining their
> dish and modem along, we may be able to set up a wireless and/or
> ethernet router to provide service to everybody. Perhaps set up
> the dish on/near Jason & Norah's camper connected to a WiFi rounter
> and set up a directional antennna to blast the signal over to the
> DML tent area of the campsite?
>
>
>
> - Broadband Cellular
>
> - Similar to Satellite, above except we'd probably need to set up
> a laptop to do NAT. (Unless of course the plan is not unlimited in
> which case we might want to do something more like "Dial-up", below)
>
>
> - Dial up
>
> - If all else fails, and all we want to do is at the very least send
> daily status reports to the DML, we could use a cellular modem to
> dial in somewhere, connect, and send, or possibly do the same from
> someplace in a town that offers internet access like a library.
>
> That's about all I can come up with; there might be other options that
> I don't know about, which somebody could fill us in on. Obviously, we'd
> want to do this for as close to "free" as is monitarily possible. :-)
>

-- 
Bill Day

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