RE: OT: Drive a Ford or get off the lot.

From: Rick Barnes (rascal@scrtc.com)
Date: Sat Jan 28 2006 - 10:40:32 EST


Shakes nada book

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
[mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of Daniel L.
Burrows
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 1:30 AM
To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
Subject: Re: DML: OT: Drive a Ford or get off the lot.

shakes head

Rick Barnes wrote:

> Oh yeah, WHAT math are you using to say the Vic has a better resale than a
> Honda Accord? Is that new math? 230k on a Vic...uh huh, in your
> dreams....230 on an Accord is just broken in, on a Ford its just broken.
> I went to NADA, put in a Ford Vic LX and 230,000 miles, $4,300
> Put in a Honda Accord LX and 230,000
miles,
> $5,775
> So you use your math, I will use mine, but those numbers don't lie. Oh
> yeah, true, a Honda won't make much of a police car, but if you have ever
> seen a Vic after its been used in police service, and I have, they are
lucky
> to get $300 for them. I was a motor pool foreman for the City of Miami
> Police Department.
>
> Rascal
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of Daniel L.
> Burrows
> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 12:14 AM
> To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> Subject: Re: DML: OT: Drive a Ford or get off the lot.
>
>
> The math shows it has a better resale than an Accord.... Furthermore,
> it's not a big deal to put 230k miles on a vic and expect more. All in
> all, the vic lasts for a vast amount of time.... For example... They
> have tried Honda's for taxis and cop cars but they did not hold up or
> last long..... Consdiering ball joints in general, Mazda sealed ball
> joints last, Honda's last, GM's are so so, along with a lot of other
> sealed ball joints.... Dodge just had a poor design on them.... My dad
> has been doing alignments and suspension work for over 35 years (he's an
> old fucker nowa days) and I remeber what he said when he first saw
> dodge's setup..... He pretty much said that the design was a joke.
> Anyhow, it seems that all motor companies make mistakes and do stupid
> things.... Most involving money matters.... But yet, stupid americans
> still buy.... I wish ford would go back to the early 70s for their
> designs... Seemed like those cars lasted long and performed well. I
> really liked the Mercury line... I can't say much for their trucks
> though... On the other hand though, it was a truck and it did what a
> truck was suposed to do very well.... Till some morons got out there and
> drove them like cars.
>
> Rick Barnes wrote:
>
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>>The Vic is a good car, but do you think it will keep its resale the way an
>>Accord does? Yes, some of the cars are using those ball joints now, but
>>Dodge did it to save a few bucks and caused lots of Dak and Durango
>
> owners
>
>>much grief.
>>
>>Rascal
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
>>[mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of Daniel L.
>>Burrows
>>Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 11:12 PM
>>To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
>>Subject: Re: DML: OT: Drive a Ford or get off the lot.
>>
>>
>>Most of your other newer cars and trucks have ball joints like that
>>(nothing new). Ford has the new fusion (Mazda plant) and it's pretty bad
>>ass. There problem is the same as everyone elses.... Money is getting
>>tight, they don't know what to do, so they are being gay... As for the
>>good car... They have the Vic! I can't think of a better car than the
>>vic in that price range.
>>
>>Rick Barnes wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Hence their problem. All they have to do is build a good car...Honda,
and
>>>Toyota can but THEY can't? What kind of sense does it make to build cars
>>>for about a hundred years and decide to make a TRUCK with ball joints
>>>without grease nips just to save a buck or two...(our Daks)...
>>>They have no one to blame but themselves.
>>>
>>>Rascal
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
>>>[mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of Terrible
Tom
>>>Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 10:08 PM
>>>To: dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net
>>>Subject: Re: DML: OT: Drive a Ford or get off the lot.
>>>
>>>
>>>Dan Kramarsky wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>LOL.
>>>>
>>>>Ford's Deerborn plant workers were told they must drive a Ford or park
>>>
>>>across the street.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Ford reports a loss of 1.6 billion in its North American auto operations
>>>
>>>for 2005. And
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>plans to cut 30,000 jobs.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
http://money.cnn.com/2006/01/27/news/companies/ford_parkinglot/index.htm?cnn
>
>>>=yes
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I can understand the sentiment behind that... from the standpoint of
>>>Ford... however I think its a little irritating that they would mandate
>>>that. One guy was quoted as having said something like drive or buy
>>>what you build... well yeah thats nice.. I'm sure every guy that builds
>>>ford trucks will want to drive one with the WOOONDERFUL gas milage that
>>>full size trucks get. Granted a UAW worker makes a hell of a lot more
>>>money than I do.. and can afford more gasoline than I can... but don't
>>>expect them to buy what they build.
>>>
>>>On a related note - on my many trips between chicago and wisconsin over
>>>the years, I have seen lots of non Dodge products parked in the lots at
>>>the Belvedere IL Neon plant. Heh
>>>
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