Re: Subject: Re: OT: Drive a Ford or get off the lot.

From: Terrible Tom (SilverEightynine@aol.com)
Date: Fri Feb 03 2006 - 09:39:41 EST


Peter A Athens wrote:
> Rick Barnes wrote:
>
>>The unions are what are killing our automakers
>>and adding so much cost to a car that there may be no hope for the big 3
>>or
>>at least the big 2.
>
>
> With all due respect and as a union member myself I have to disagree with
> this particular assessment.I'll grant that the use of union labor costs more
> in terms of manhours vs. non-union labor, it's not the use of union labor
> that's killing the big 2 considering that Toyota for a fact also uses UAW
> members in it's plants here in the US. While I cannot make that claim for
> certain with other import manufacturers with assembly plants here in the
> U.S. I suspect that the majority of them also use union labor. In this day
> of slowly decreasing worker's rights and skyrocketing CEO benefits, a lot of
> companies including the auto manufacturers are looking to cut costs wherever
> they can and since the only way the unions could kill the automakers is that
> their salaries and benefits cannot be reduced. So for the CEOs to be able
> keep making the obscene amounts of money, the powers that be would rather
> make sacrifices elsewhere by cutting corners on the materials used and
> outsourcing whatever they can. A big part of what is killing the big 3 is
> that the majority of Americans are brainwashed into believing that domestic
> vehicles are inferior to their imported counterparts. And I suspect that the
> CEOs of the import automakers make a bit less and have less benefits than
> their domestic counterparts.
>

Thank you Peter *applause*

I wasn't going to say anything, because I was afraid of starting a flame
war :)

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