Re: Hard starting fuel injectors?

From: phatdak98@comcast.net
Date: Wed Mar 22 2006 - 13:13:38 EST


Hey Mark,
I will keep you in mind. Right now I'am thinking of keeping them as I do have
plans for building another engine.
Kevin

In article <003701c64dbe$ad9cb090$0201a8c0@MARK>, flyboy01@comcast.net ("Mark
Kuzia") writes:
>
>
> Let me know if you want to sell the 21# injectors.
>
> Mark Kuzia
> 1998 Dak 5.2L 5-spd
> mskuzia@comcast.net
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <phatdak98@comcast.net>
> To: <dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 12:28 PM
> Subject: RE: DML: Hard starting fuel injectors?
>
>
> >
> > Thanks for the input, I just ordered the 19# FMS injectors due to the fact
> > that
> > the stock ones are shot. That will be the first place I start by replacing
> > the
> > 21# with the FMS 19#. Will let you know the out come. Should be able to
> > swap
> > them this weekend.
> >
> >
> >
> > In article <000301c64ce8$40438bd0$9e544b0c@Dakota>,
> > bpracing@worldnet.att.net
> > ("Ray Block") writes:
> >>
> >>
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: Terrible Tom
> >> >
> >> > phatdak98@comcast.net wrote:
> >> > > <snip>. Here's what I got. 98 CC
> >> > 4x4
> >> > > 5.2l Hypertech power programmer, 3" cat back, Intense performance
> >> > > stage
> >> > II
> >> > > intake, 160 stat, and Poweraid throttle body spacer. <snip> Installed
> >> MSD Superconductors, Autolite
> >> > 3923's
> >> > > .040, Accel supercoil, Accel cap and rotor, Accel 21# fuel injectors
> >> > > and
> >> > > relocated IAT sensor to intake tube. <snip>
> >> > The
> >> > > problem is the truck is hard starting, even after sitting just a few
> >> > minutes.
> >> > > <snip> I'm stumped and any help would
> >> > be
> >> > > appreciated.
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks Kevin
> >> > > 98 CC 4x4 Deep Amethyst
> >> >
> >> > That's an interesting set of modifications. I would suspect the
> >> > injectors first. Try swapping your stock injectors back in and see
> >> > what
> >> > happens. I think 21# injectors are a little too rich for a truck with
> >> > only those kinds of mods. If you were running a blower or some other
> >> > radical stuff I would say you could use them...
> >> >
> >> > Pull the plugs and see if they are fouling. With the 160 degree
> >> > thermo,
> >> > the colder plugs, the power programmer *and* the bigger injectors -
> >> > your
> >> > engine is going to be sucking down gas like nobodys business - betcha
> >> > any money its running rich.
> >> >
> >> > <snip> Your engine probably isn't getting warm enough to cook off all
> >> > the fuel and you are not getting good combustion. Also a good way to
> >> > roast a CAT.
> >> > -------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Kevin, I think Tom hit the nail on the head. There are several mods you
> >> have that contribute to a richer mixture. I'm speaking from personal
> >> experience here as I've tried them all and my trusty scanner and drag
> >> strip
> >> time slips clearly show what works and what doesn't.
> >>
> >> 21 lb injectors = way too rich. Even "new" 19 lb Accels are too rich.
> >> 160 degree thermostat = richer mix.
> >> IAT sensor in intake tube = richer mix.
> >> 3923 plugs = too cold for normal driving with a rich mix.
> >>
> >> You didn't mention fuel octane but higher = slower burn.
> >> Even with all my mods (see dragtruk link) anything over 92 slows me down.
> >> HTH.
> >> Ray
> >> http://www.dragtruk.com/ENTRIES/20KM1FD2KWBP.html
> >>
> >>
> >>
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