With the dbl-rollers, it's really not required...but definitely helps keep
things in time properly. Even the dbl-rollers will stretch - seen that at
60K miles on my V6 with the high-end Cloyes chain (and on several others
with various dbl-roller chains). Do the chains stretch as much as the stock
chains....nope. So it's your call if you want to spend the extra $$$ or
not.
- Bernd
-----Original Message-----
From: James Johnson [mailto:sixpackdak@execulink.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 7:24 PM
To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
Subject: Re: DML: RE: It's water pump time!
Thanks for straightening me out Bernd. :)
Do you recommend using the tensioner as an upgrade when I change the chain?
I normally use a performance double-roller chain set when I change them, so
I don't know if it would really be required.
James
At 05:26 PM 1/20/2008 -0600, you wrote:
>No they didn't. That's an update to the newer engines. It's all the same
>part though - the V6 tensioner works on the 3.9/5.2/5.9L from Mid '91 to
2004.
>
>- Bernd
>
>James Johnson wrote:
>>
>>I was thinking the same thing about the timing chain, I did the one in my
>>last Dakota at just over 100k miles and the one in my Mirada at about
>>150k. But it is way too cold to work outside right now. Now that I've
>>gotten the water pump apart off, I have found that on this truck it's
>>easier to get at everything because of the cast aluminum accessory
>>brackets, it all comes off as a module. So once the weather gets a little
>>nicer I will pull it apart again and do the timing chain.
>>
>>One question that I do have about the timing chain though, did the 92
>>V8's come with the timing chain tensioner? I know the later V-6 engines
>>got them.
>>
>>James
>>
>>
>>At 05:02 PM 1/20/2008 -0600, you wrote:
>>
>>>At 186K miles...i'd be seriously worried about the timing chain.
>>>I've changed them at 100K and it's not a pretty sight - lots of slack
>>>and a lack of performance due to cam timing "flutter".
>>>
>>>- Bernd
>>>
>>>Dan Kramarsky wrote:
>>>>James,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Why? Why mess with the timing chain at all? Is it causing any
>>>>problems? You only have
>>>>186,400 miles on the truck. Unless the timing chain is a problem.
>>>>I wouldn't touch it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I just did my water pump in my '92 Dak 5.2L with A/C. And at the same
>>>>time I put on the
>>>>March Performance under-drive pulley set #10515. To do this job I
>>>>purchase the
>>>>following parts. But keep in mind the water pump I needed was the
>>>>older kind that has no
>>>>pulley, just 4 threaded holes to where the pulley is bolted on.
>>>>This is because the new
>>>>March water pump pulley needs to be bolted on. Note: These old-style
>>>>water pumps can be
>>>>hard to find because the new-style pumps have the pulley pressed fit
>>>>on. ( it wont come
>>>>off )
>>>>
>>>>Parts Required:
>>>>---------------
>>>>
>>>>Water Pump
>>>>A-1 CARDONE Part # 58447 {[Water Pump] Remanuf.}
>>>>Bolt on Pulley w/Threaded Heater Port Standard Pump $37.89
>>>>
>>>>Water Pump Gasket
>>>>FEL-PRO Part # 35540 $1.24
>>>>
>>>>Tensioner Pulley
>>>>GATES Part # 38016 {Belt Drive Pulley Thermoplastic V-Ribbed 7 Grooved
>>>>(76mm x 17mm x
>>>>32mm)} $15.19
>>>>
>>>>Idler Pulley
>>>>GATES Part # 38033 {Belt Drive Pulley Steel Smooth (90mm x 17mm x
>>>>33mm)} $19.67
>>>>
>>>>Serpentine Belt
>>>>Gates Part #K060962 {Automotive V-Ribbed Belt (Standard) 6 Ribs 13/16"
>>>>x 96 7/8"} $21.79
>>>>
>>>>March Performance
>>>>MARCH Part #10515 {Pulley Set, Serpentine, Aluminum, Clear
>>>>Powdercoated, set of 3 }
>>>>$199.50
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Now, I got the Tensioner and the Idler pulleys because mine where
>>>>fairly worn down. If
>>>>you havent replaced these in a while, I suggest you do it now.
>>>>
>>>>And please keep in mind that the 6-rib is needed because the March
>>>>pulley set is designed
>>>>for 6-rib. And yes, as you may have guessed, the power steering
>>>>pulley, the A/C
>>>>pulley, and the tensioner pulley are all still 7 ribs right? So how
>>>>do you install a
>>>>6-rib belt? Right? Well, if you leave the front-most tooth open on
>>>>all those pulleys,
>>>> the belt will line up just perfectly. No problems. I have had this
>>>> ruhning for 4
>>>>months now in my 1992 Dak 5.2L and its flawless.
>>>>
>>>>Have fun!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Dan K.
>>>>
>>>>Vehicle: 1992 Dakota Club Cab LE Color: Two-tone silver
>>>>Engine: 5.2L EFI Options: A/C, Cruise, PS, PB, PW, PL, 3.55 gear,
>>>>46RH, tinted rear slider.
>>>>Mods: Home-brew CAI, March Performance pulley set, K&N Filters, 180*
>>>>T-stat, relocated IAT, DynoMax Super Turbo Exhaust Kit, Hi-Flow Cat,
>>>>Autolite plugs & wires, Gates hoses & belts.
>>>>Photo: http://static.flickr.com/42/84856795_c18903d10f.jpg
>>>>Whats Next: Mopar Performance PCM, 3.91 rear gear with LSD,
>>>>electric fan, KYB shocks, re-paint body, 2/4 drop kit.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
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