RE: RE: ...Mileage...and oil

From: Steve Preston (steveophonic@yahoo.com)
Date: Sun Feb 10 2008 - 23:13:33 EST


Bernd,you are on a mission to be right. And
frankly,that scares me. ;)

Steve P.
--- "Bernd D. Ratsch" <bernd@dodgetrucks.org> wrote:

>
> Amsoil Quote:
> "PAO composition is a series of chemical processes
> that are designed to
> provide superior lubrication performance over a wide
> temperature operating
> range. They are synthetic hydrocarbons manufactured
> by a two-step process
> from linear alpha-olefins produced from ethylene.
>
> The first step in the synthesis is an
> oligomerization reaction, essentially
> polymerization, with boron trifluoride in
> combination with a protic
> co-catalyst. They are manufactured via
> Ziegler-Natta catalysts; usually
> alkylaluminum compounds in conjunction with organic
> halides."
>
>
> Hmmmm..."Organic Halides" - guess what - found in
> CRUDE OIL. ;)
>
> - Bernd
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bernd D. Ratsch [mailto:bernd@dodgetrucks.org]
>
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 8:28 PM
> To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> Subject: RE: DML: RE: ...Mileage...and oil
>
>
> It's not a true synthetic Jon if it is derived from
> base crude...and Group-4
> isn't 100% synthetically engineered - Amsoil has
> already admitted to that
> years ago.
>
> - Bernd
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jon@dakota-truck.net
> [mailto:jon@dakota-truck.net]
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 5:51 PM
> To: dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net
> Subject: Re: DML: RE: ...Mileage...and oil
>
>
> "Bernd D. Ratsch" <bernd@dodgetrucks.org> wrote:
>
> > It's still the same crude oil that's used Jon.
> The grade is mainly the
> > quality of the crude...it's still all from crude.
> Some people think that
> > "synthetic" means that the oil was made from some
> mad scientist in a
> > lab...that's not where it comes from.
>
>
> That is only partially correct. Although groups
> 1, 2 and 3 are
> indeed created from petroleum, group 4 base stock is
> a true synthetic,
> not derived from petroleum. It is created via a
> chemical reaction,
> "in a lab", as you say. (The sanity of the
> scientists involved
> notwithstanding.) :-) Although *most* "synthetic"
> oils are actually
> created from group 3 base stock, some are created
> from group 4, such
> as the original Mobil 1, I think Mobil 1 is group 3
> now though.
> Anyway, there are no dead dinosaurs in group 4.
> Group 5 is also a
> true synthetic, though I don't know of any oils
> using it as a base
> stock, group 5 is usually used to formulate
> additives.
>
> A related factoid: Oil companies are allowed to
> call "synthetic"
> oil based on group 3 base stock a synthetic because
> of the Exxon/Mobil vs
> Castrol lawsuit in which Castrol was able to
> convince the court that
> group 3 was of sufficient quality to market the oil
> as a "synthetic".
> (Mobil 1 was using group 4 which is a true synthetic
> and Castrol
> Syntec was being made from the less expensive group
> 3 and undercutting
> Mobil 1 sales. Exxon/Mobil sued Castrol to stop
> them from calling
> group 3 oil synthetic, but Castrol won.)
>
>
> --
> -Jon-
>
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>
>
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