RE: RE: Brake malfuntion

From: Bernd D. Ratsch (bernd@dodgetrucks.org)
Date: Sat Feb 16 2008 - 15:39:27 EST


I (again) agree with Ray on the lube part too. When you change out your
brakes, CLEAN YOUR BRAKE PAD HOLDER AND LUBRICATE THE SLIDERS TOO. If there
are any gouges in the slide area, try to sand/grind them flat. The pads can
get stuck on the groove and either cause a "click click" noise when braking
or just plain out get stuck.

Also, if you turn the rotors (which is HIGHLY recommended anyway), make sure
you cross hatch them and don't use a rough cut. A cut that is too rough can
cause brake chatter and not cross-hatching them can cause either strange
noises from the pads or uneven break in. Make sure you burnish the brake
pads on the initial test drive as well (drive up to 60-70mph and brake firm
even 10-15mph until you're at a stop - repeat 4-5 times). If you think
that's excessive...you should try the procedure for the Police and DPS/CHP
vehicles.

- Bernd

-----Original Message-----
From: Ray Block [mailto:bpracing@worldnet.att.net]
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 11:21 AM
To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
Subject: DML: RE: Brake malfuntion

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Azie L. Magnusson
>
> Rick B. writes: >> Well if the system were designed or worked
> as it is supposed to, it would not have happened, all I can tell
> you is, it did happen, agree or not. <<
>
> Not disputing your malfunction nor the remedy.. I just do
> not understand how it could happen that way..
>
> Azie

Well I had hoped to stay out of this but since no one else has come up with
a better explanation, I'll give it a shot.

The brake booster rod can indeed get out of adjustment and not allow the MC
piston to retract completely when you release the pedal. This will cause
some residual pressure to be applied to *all* 4 brakes. Notice I said
*all*! Why? Because there are only two lines coming out of the MC, one
for the front, one for the rear brakes. The MC piston affects both lines
so both will experience this residual pressure. From the MC these two lines
go to the proportioning valve.

The split to each wheel cylinder/caliper is *after* the proportioning valve
so they cannot be *individually* affected by the booster and master
cylinder. All four of your brakes are gonna be dragging a little....or a
lot...depending upon how out of adjustment your booster rod is.

Now for the 64,000 dollar question. Why did this problem only show up at
one wheel? Perhaps because one caliper was dragging more than the other.
There are potentially several reasons why this may happen but the one I've
experienced on mine was because lube on the adapter rails/pad ears had worn
off and that side experienced more resistance to retraction of the caliper
than the other. A little lube on those areas solved the problem. In my
case the booster itself was fine, as was the caliper piston.

In a nut shell, I believe Rascal did have a booster problem but it first
became noticeable because one caliper wasn't functioning as well as the
other.

Hope this helps.

Ray



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