RE: Engine Dies and Restarts

From: Bernd D. Ratsch (bernd@dodgetrucks.org)
Date: Wed Sep 10 2008 - 07:19:29 EDT


We very rarely see the cam sensor go out...i'd say the ratio in between the
cam and crank sensor failures is about 80% Crank and 20% Cam.

- Bernd

-----Original Message-----
From: Biff Byrum [mailto:bbyrum9@foothill.net]
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 10:28 PM
To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
Subject: Re: DML: Engine Dies and Restarts

My experience has been the cam sensor, both on a Gen I and a Gen II. Biff
Byrum

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jamie Calder" <jcalder3@cfl.rr.com>
To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 10:55 PM
Subject: Re: DML: Engine Dies and Restarts

>
> So if it was a sensor causing this and you had to pick one of the sensors,

> it would be the crank sensor you would check out first? Not saying that
> this is the problem but the other sensors most likely wouldn't cause this
> kind of problem? Thanks
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Bernd D. Ratsch" <bernd@dodgetrucks.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 6:09 PM
> To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
> Subject: RE: DML: Engine Dies and Restarts
>
>>
> Yes, cam/crank codes are present on OBD-I and OBD-II systems. A bad crank

> sensor can definitely cause this issue - when they get hot (and are
> "defective", they can kill the engine. Once they cool down (10-30
> minutes), it will restart without any problems.
>>
>> - Bernd
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jamie Calder [mailto:jcalder3@cfl.rr.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 10:48 PM
>> To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
>> Subject: Re: DML: Engine Dies and Restarts
>>
>>
>> I'll have to break out the FSM and read how to check the sensors. Will a

>> faulty crank, cam, TPS or MAP sensor throw a code on an OBD II? Thanks
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Ed McCarrick" <edmccarrick@yahoo.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 5:26 PM
>> To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
>> Subject: Re: DML: Engine Dies and Restarts
>>
>>> --- On Tue, 9/9/08, Jamie Calder <jcalder3@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> From: Jamie Calder <jcalder3@cfl.rr.com>
>>>> Subject: DML: Engine Dies and Restarts
>>>> To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
>>>> Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 9:10 PM
>>>> Got a new problem. Driving down the highway today my '96 318 drops to
>>>> an idle speed. Any attempt to depress the gas would make the engine
>>>> severely stumble and eventually quit. Coasted to a stop and same thing

>>>> happens in park. Turn engine off and called a friend. Takes him 15
>>>> minuets to get to me. Turned the key to show him the problem and it
>>>> fires up and runs perfectly. I replaced the fuel pump a couple
>>>> thousand miles ago and coil 3-4 thousand miles ago. Even though it's a

>>>> new reman fuel pump, still sounds like an intermittant fuel pressure
>>>> problem?
>>>
>>> Hey James, That sounds very similar to what happened to my '00 4.7 a few

>>> years ago. The truck stumbled and eventaully stalled completely. I
>>> pulled the code and had about 9 , most were cylinder misfires. I had it

>>> towed to the dealer 2 miles down the road and it started right up and
>>> ran properly after coming off the truck. I believe it was one of the
>>> postion sensors, cam or crank.
>>>
>>> HTH
>>> Ed



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