GM is strapped for cash. At current cash burn rates, GM does not make it to
next summer.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kenneth M. Berntsen" <kenneth@berntsen.cc>
To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 10:36 PM
Subject: RE: DML: Future of Dakota..
>
> I wouldn't necessiarly say strapped. GM is looking to do exactly what
> Diamler did. Buy the company and spend all its cash reserves on your own
> pet projects. But don't give me an econobox truck cause I won't be
> buying it. I liked the Dak when is was a slightly bigger small truck
> with a V8.
>
> Quoting Gabriel Couriel <gcouriel@gmail.com>:
>
>>
>> Remember, chrsyler is strapped for cash. If they move it to
> another
>> platform, it should be one that will foster economic engine
> choices. Just
>> use what's on the shelf, and run with it!
>>
>> Gabriel A. Couriel
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
>> [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of
> Dustin
>> Williams
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 10:50 PM
>> To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
>> Subject: Re: DML: Future of Dakota..
>>
>>
>> The dakota has always been the biggest in it's class, as the rest
> of
>> the class grew it it's size untill it grew to just shy of the size
> of
>> the next class. That was in the day when advertisers talked horse
>> power and torque in selling vehicles now the only number they talk
>> about is mileage. If they shrunk it down to the size of the journey
> as
>> I heard mentioned a few months ago or the liberty as mentioned in
> this
>> thead and put a diesel in it and made it into a plug in series
> hybrid
>> in a few years it would meet everyones needs and desires: a 4x4
>> capable light truck with the fuel economy of a car that is able to
>> haul a sheet of plywood, an atv, or tow a boat and it would
> dominate
>> truck sales.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/22/08, Gabriel Couriel <gcouriel@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> the problem is that the mid-size truck market was a market of 1.
> Now that
>>> everyone is in it, Dodge should either revolutionize the market,
> or move
>> to
>>> another one. The dak isn't the cheapest truck in the class, by
> far, and
>> the
>>> V8 option is rarely checked, and isn't much of a motivator. Move
> to
>> another
>>> class and start again. Put 4-bangers back in the trucks. The
> M-80 was a
>>> bad concept at the time, but would probably do very well now. A
> small
>> I-4,
>>> a Turbo 4, and a diesel engine. Average fuel ratings of 22
> city/30
>> highway,
>>> and a diesel option. Sell it for $14k, and watch them fly off
> the lots.
>>>
>>> Hell, build it off the liberty/nitro platform, they're probably
> killing
>> the
>>> Nitro soon, so use the extra production space and build it there
> (oh, and
>>> name the truck Dakota).
>>>
>>> Gabriel A. Couriel
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
>>> [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of
> Kenneth M.
>>> Berntsen
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 5:33 PM
>>> To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
>>> Subject: RE: DML: Future of Dakota..
>>>
>>>
>>> I think if they were to just go back to the original forumla for
> the
>>> dak they would do great. But then it will have to be figured in
> with
>>> the Colorado which follows the original Dak formula better than
> the
>>> current truck. That assumes GM can find some one to loan them
> the
>>> money to buy Chryslers reserves.
>>>
>>> Quoting Gabriel Couriel <gcouriel@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've been thinking about the Dakota, and why, when I went to get
> a
>>> new
>>>> vehicle, I didn't really consider it. The answer is, that the
>>> Dakota
>>>> doesn't fill a niche with any consumer. Want an HD truck? it's
>>> too small.
>>>> Want a sports truck? It's too heavy/big. Need an economical
>>> truck? Look
>>>> somewhere else. Want a good looking truck? Nope.
>>>>
>>>> About the only market it fits, is people who want something, not
>>> quite as
>>>> large as a full-sized truck, with a V8... that's not a very big
>>> market,
>>>> considering "V8" is a 4-letter word, right about now.
>>>>
>>>> The future of the marquee, as we know it, probably won't exist
>>> beyond this
>>>> product cycle. Obviously, dodge did something right with the
> Gen
>>> I/II
>>>> designs, which translated into even bigger hits with the Gen III
>>> design.
>>>> However, when they scrapped that model (just bigger than a small
>>> truck) and
>>>> went for a big truck, they lost it.
>>>>
>>>> Gabriel A. Couriel
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
>>>> [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of
> Andy
>>> Levy
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 2:23 PM
>>>> To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
>>>> Subject: Re: DML: Future of Dakota..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 14:14, Mr. Plow
>>> <adam_is_mr_plow@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't really understand any sort of rationale from Chrysler
>>> wanting to
>>>> get rid of their small truck line.
>>>>> Toyota is becoming the world's largest passenger manufacturer
>>> (maybe it is
>>>> already??) and they had had HUGE success with their small trucks
>>> world wide.
>>>>
>>>> I think they're swapping position w/ GM each quarter. One quarter
>>> it's
>>>> Toy, the next it's GM, then back.
>>>>
>>>>> Why get out of a vehicle segment when others are doing so well
> in
>>> it???
>>>>> Instead, make a better product that actually appeals to more
>>> people.
>>>>
>>>> Too expensive
>>>> Too late
>>>> Too long to make it happen
>>>>
>>>> The 2005 Dak redesign was the window of opportunity, and it has
>>> closed
>>>> (or is closing rapidly). I don't see how Chrysler can matchToyota
>>> in
>>>> the timeframe that would be needed to "save" anything.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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