my truck sits in the garage for weeks.....and it seems that when ever i
pull it out of the garage and hit the brake for the first time, it
squeals and grabs very hard.... only one time thought coming down my
garage incline. truthfully I never thought much about it... definitely
the front though, not the back
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 9:58 PM, M.B. wrote:
> After repeated hard stops (bedding in the pads in the new rotors at
> the time) the passenger side rear drum makes a loud squealing noise
> under hard braking then locks up for an instant, then the ABS kicks in
> hard for the rears, but the fronts haven't reached full braking force
> yet since they still have remaining grip.
>
> The loud squealing also happens when it's wet and the rear drums have
> been sitting for a day or so, again, mostly on the passenger side
> rear. They also get extremely grabby, to the point even a slight
> nudge on the pedal will throw you forward hard. I've learned to drag
> the brakes slightly with a feather touch on the brake pedal going down
> the driveway. One they warm up a little they're ok, but I still hear
> a slight squeal coming to a stop sometimes.
>
> To clarify, this isn't the squeal like rivets on a brake shoe are
> digging into a drum. It's more the noise like the brakes on a city
> bus for example.
>
> On 02/03/2011 06:43 PM, Brian wrote:
>>
>> If the rear is locking up with the drums then you have a problem with
>> your
>> ABS system as all Dakotas since at least '94 have had RWABS standard.
>> Switching to the 2003 rear disc set up, or even the SSBC rear disc
>> conversion is a very worthwile mod. It WILL help with braking
>> performance
>> even on a daily driver. The rear drums on Dakotas have always been
>> marginal
>> at best, even when adjusted properly.
>>
>>
>>
>> brian cropp
>>
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>> From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
>> [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of
>> jon@dakota-truck.net
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 9:14 AM
>> To: dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net
>> Subject: Re: DML: Brake Upgrade
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "M.B."<mailinglists@moparhowto.com> wrote:
>>> Depends on what year truck you have. When they went to the 12"
>>> brakes
>>> in what, 2003? I think that was about as big as you could get.
>>
>>> I personally would rather convert to discs on the rear as my drums
>>> are
>>> my limiting factor. They lock up long before the fronts do and the
>>> ABS
>>> kicks in hard. I think my drums need replacing here pretty soon
>>> though.
>>
>>
>> If your rear end is locking up with drums, I should think that
>> swapping to discs which will grab even harder would exacerbate the
>> problem. Plus, switching a vehicle from drums to discs is generally
>> difficult and/or expensive and not worth the time or the money, IMHO.
>> I like rear discs from a maintenance standpoint and thus would spec
>> them on a new vehicle, but to swap to them from drums is just not
>> worth the effort. Perhaps in a road racing vehicle with a better
>> weight bias a case could be made, but your rear brakes are only doing
>> something like 20% of the braking, so increasing the braking power in
>> the rear doesn't do a whole lot for you. If better stops are the
>> goal, any improvement to the front brakes is 4 times as effective as
>> that same improvement made to the rear brakes.
>>
>> Regarding your specific problem of the rears locking up, I
>> suspect
>> you can eliminate that with some adjustment. It may be the pads are
>> too close to the drum and are engaging too early/hard. I don't know
>> if the Dak has an adjustable front/rear bias valve, but if it does
>> (or
>> one were added) that could be another way to go.
>>
>>
>> --
>> -Jon-
>>
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