>>This IS really strange!  I to have exactly the same problem as Dave! 
>>Only mine is at 265,000km's.  Between 5 and 15 key turns to get the
>>starter to turn.  I think the Solenoid contacts are burned up but was
>>suggested to replace the whole starter.  Why do these things ALWAYS crap
>>out when the snow comes!
>
    I had the same problem the other night!!!   Turns out that when I was barefoot
I couldn't push the clutch pedal down far enough to.... HA HA HA  I thought
I was losing my mind...
--related story
    I had a '76 Honda Civic a long time ago, and it had the problems you
have mentioned.  Sometime I would give up and bump start it...  Eventually
it would NEVER turn over, so I went to get a new starter installed..  I was told
$50 for the starter, and $50 labor to remove the old, and install the new.
When I came back to pick up my car, I got the bill $75.00!!!  I couldn't figure it out.
I asked the guy why only $75, and not $100 (not that I was complaining!)..He told
me "You DIDN'T have a starter to remove!!"  HA HA HA I couldn't believe it... Makes
since I guess.  I then was able to recall driving home one night a month before and I 
hit a piece of tire in the road, and a loud 'THUD' was heard right after that...  Cars 
swerved behind me all over the place... I thought it was because of the tire!!  :P
    I sure miss that car! 
 
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