Re: No sticks in sight!

From: Klaus Wilkens (klaus@buffnet.net)
Date: Tue Oct 14 1997 - 21:54:35 EDT


Tony Mastres wrote:

> >Okay, if we're gonna pick nits, go to any road race, circle track,
> >formula 1 race, etc, and tell me how many autos you see there. For
> >the ultimate in control, the stick is the only way to go....
> >
> >-Carl (dropping 20 lbs of portliness is worth .10 in the quarter)
> >Vidos
>
> Well Carl, at any F-1 race there wont be a "stick" in sight (except in
> the
> parking lot)
> F-1 cars use a sequential shifter that is actuated by buttons on the
> steering wheel and NO clutch when shifting!!! In fact most top level
> race
> cars use sequential shifters for that bang,bang,bang shifting. The
> short
> lag you get from using a clutch would be deadly (race wise) in a lot
> of
> these situations. A notable exception would be NASCAR where thay dont
>
> really shift that much anyway. In their case a "stick" is much lighter
> and
> easier to build,rebuild and maintain than an auto
>

Who says you need a clutch to shift a stick? F1 car transmissions are
closer to standards than they are automatics. They use a clutch for
starting and stopping.but the computer controls the engine speed during
shifting. Listen to a F1 car when it downshifts, you can hear the engine
computer match the gear speeds.

Automatics in the Dakotas are hydraulicly coupled, hydraulicly shifted
(excet OD), 3 speed planetary transmissions with a solenoid operated
overdrive. the technology for this tranny dates back to the 50s and do
not even remotely resemble a $100,000+ F1 transmision.

When is the last time you saw a competitve car in a raod race like
Watkins Glen, Mid Ohio, etc with an automatic similar to those sold in
the USA to consumers ?

KW

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