RE: big TB, any theories? was:The TB "deal"..

From: Mok, Alan (AMok@spbank.com)
Date: Tue Oct 20 1998 - 12:09:16 EDT


If your engine is demanding more fuel then it's getting more air flow
which equates more HP/torque. Keep up the good work. Consider yourselves
pioneers. But do share with the rest of us mortals ASAP.

Alan

'98 Dakota R/T (Headers, FABM & waiting for Shift kit)
'89 Mustang GT (347, Griggs GR-40 suspension, S-trim...)
Ducati 916 (someday)

                -----Original Message-----
                From: Bridges, Bruce [mailto:bbridges@alarismed.com]
                Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 1998 8:14 AM
                To: 'dakota-truck@buffnet.net'
                Subject: RE: DML: big TB, any theories? was:The
TB "deal"..

                Chris,
                Frank is lining up for a "sniffed" dyno run to see if
the lean condition is
                corrected by the Lucas 270cc disk injectors. So far his
Butt dyno says
                good, but we need the #s to verify were not setting up
for a check engine
                light! Jon S's results were similar to mine in that he
got no ET
                improvement from the 700+cfm unit over his DIY port and
polish. No
                reduction was verified either, so were heading in the
right direction so
                far. Ive had the 700+ unit on my R/T for a couple of
weeks with the stock
                SBEC and it seems to like it a lot now, but it wouldnt
work with the JETII
                module. With the JET at extended WOT the injectors
would "max" and hang
                (too long a PW signal + too high a rate) causing a
stutter and a lean
                condition. If our theory holds, the bigger injectors
should compensate for
                this, allowing the SBEC to back off the PW and allow the
injectors to keep
                pulsing and make more HP. Hey at least this shows that
the JET is working
                at WOT too! Both Frank and I are anxious to get the
data, but this adds
                about 4 bills to the cost of going with a 700+cfm TB.
After all, it just
                more air, the fuel has got to come from
somewhere...Frank saw a 30 HP gain
                w/o the big injectors on his 360, and theoretically the
700cfm combined with
                the 270cc injector could make up to 300+
HP,theoretically, We just have to
                figure out how...
                BKB

                -----Original Message-----
                From: Chris lang [mailto:langcj@clarkson.edu]
                Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 1998 7:47 AM
                To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net
                Subject: Re: DML:The TB "deal"... RE: Jules...Gone...I
think here's why.

                How are the stage II TB's looking?

                Chris

                -----Original Message-----
                From: Bridges, Bruce <bbridges@alarismed.com>
                To: 'dakota-truck@buffnet.net'
<dakota-truck@buffnet.net>
                Date: Tuesday, October 20, 1998 10:23 AM
                Subject: RE: DML:The TB "deal"... RE: Jules...Gone...I
think here's why.

>Hey DML ,
>Hang loose on TBs for a bit if you think thats what you
need. Frank and I
>are getting set to release the stage ones to the list.
Our time frame is
>fluctuation right now since its a labor of love, and
not a money making
>venture ( hard to believe eh?) We'll charge enough to
cover materials and
>part of the machine time which should put the stage one
under 100.00 for
                the
>inital offering. Later offerings (if any) are going to
be a little more
>mercenary since we probably wont be doing all the work
ourselves. Stay
>tuned. Uh, Bob M, Hows it going with the stage one
TB?
>BKB
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Rekker21@aol.com [mailto:Rekker21@aol.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 1998 2:22 AM
>To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net
>Subject: Re: DML: RE: Jules...Gone...I think here's
why.
>
>
>In a message dated 10/20/98 1:56:52 AM Eastern Daylight
Time,
>m.gski@mci2000.com writes:
>
><< I am impressed
> with his product line (I think) but, I do not know
trucks like some other
> people around here do. This company could just sell
me what I want to
                hear
> and I may be none the wiser. Any good performance
gain stories out there?
>>>
> The thing to remember here isnt what he sells, but
how he sells it and
>what
>the price is. Sure, this guy knows his stuff, no
doubt. But you really
>should have your
>butt kissed by him rather than have to deal with his
crap if hes trying to
>sellYOU something! Also, everyone else sells basically
the same line that
>he
>does, maybe not in a package but you can find all the
parts elsewhere. If
>you
>"shop around" then youll see the price difference and
make your decision
>from
>there. The truly good thing about this list are things
like the TB mod
                that
>went around. People helping people do things on their
own without blowing
>through their check book. And then there is Frank!! A
man on a mission to
>take that TB mod to the next level, again, to help the
common good of the
>DML.
>I havent seen any prices for the mod, but seeing some
of his post, and
>hearing
>the extent of his knowledge and mechanical abilities in
a shop, I doubt he
>would price gouge like some people that no longer
respond to the list.
> Thanks for being a part of the list Frank. I enjoy
your posts.
>Eric's $.02
>



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