RE: RE: Pioneer (MIKE)

From: Michael Guzinski (m.gski@CWIX.com)
Date: Mon Jan 25 1999 - 18:56:09 EST


I have found amps that accept speaker level inputs are the high distortion
amps...low quality......

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Anthony
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Subject: RE: DML: RE: Pioneer (MIKE)

From: Peter Anthony on 01/25/99 02:02 PM

not true neccessarily, a rated 25 watt per channel head unit usually only
produces 7 or so watts RMS which equates to about 5 volts. Any of the
better amps today will accept 9 or more volts on the input rail. Though
there are exceptions.

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The amp that I have does not have speaker level inputs it only allows
200mv-5.0v(line level) thus if I use a speaker level output to go directly
to the amp I need to have that reduced to somewhere between
200mv-5.0v..this
will add distortion. You cannot directly hook a speaker level signal from
a
head unit to the normal line level inputs on an amp....you will fry your
amp. My question is....What is the output voltage supplied to the speakers
and or amp from the back of the factory Infinity? If it uses a outboard
amp, I would assume the output is somewhere btwn 200mv and 5.0v...is this
the case?
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From: Peter Anthony on 01/25/99 12:26 PM
MECP = Mobile Electronics Certification Program
i also hold my MCSE and am currently working on CCNA.

jason @ spray-tech.com
01/25/99 12:01 PM

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hahahahahaha.....I don't want your job, cuz I have to do it part time
and hate it.... Our LAN and Wan is a head ache every day. I did skip
over that gain point. I kind thought it was implied in the distortion
comment. Couldn't you include volume and gain in the same sentence as
interchangeable??? Isn't the volume a type of rheostat that controls
the output levels of the internal amps??? Any given amp (circuits not
that thing you use in your car for Mo Power) will have an output defined
by its circuit design????? I thought the volume/gain just controlled
what went into the circuit thus determining what is spit out of the
circuit???? If you pump the gain up, then you start to distort the
signal in, thus a bad signal now amplified shooting out???? I used the
Max power less than speaker RMS, so I didn't receive any funny spikes
that could cause damage.... I think most home-do-it-yourself-ers match
max to max and push the envelope sometimes. Any how...What is a MECP???
I know what MSCE, and MCE, CE, and all those other network related mumbo
jumbos are.... I personally went for a CE/EE, but slept through the EE
junk, man it was boring....hahahahahaha..... Never did care much for
amps, rectifiers, bridges, band bass filters, and on, and on, and on....
Although I loved feed back, all kinds, yeah Jimmy bring it home baby,
hahahahaha..... Can you hear Jimmy???? hahahahahaha.....

Jason
1/25/99 11:56 AM

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     From: Peter Anthony [SMTP:panthony@pcn.com]
     Sent: Monday, January 25, 1999 11:29 AM
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     From: Peter Anthony on 01/25/99 11:28 AM
     Output level doesn't really matter, any of the decent amps out
there today
     have strong enough inputs to handle the new 4+ volt pre in.
     Just set the input gains correctly and you can feed it a CLEAN
Speaker
     level.
     FYI. I am a MECP Master installer, Just not working in that
industry any
     more. I am now a network(Wan) Engineer.

     m.gski @ cwix.com
     01/25/99 11:05 AM
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     So, what you are saying in theory is.......The factory Infinity
     CD/Tape/AM/FM has line level outputs....I could run that
directly to an
     amp.
     Do we have any Mopar Service people out there to verify the
output level?
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     From: owner-dakota-truck@buffnet4.buffnet.net
     [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@buffnet4.buffnet.net]On Behalf Of
Jason
     Jennings
     Sent: Monday, January 25, 1999 8:01 AM
     To: 'dakota-truck@buffnet.net'
     Subject: RE: DML: RE: Pioneer (MIKE)
     The top end from Mopar is supposed to be amped already.... Or
at least
     have a nicer built in stereo amp.... Either way someone is more
than
     willing to shoot me if I ever replace my factor system....
     hahahahahahahaha..... It was one of the major selling points of
the
     car.... I can blast my beach boys and annoy all of the local
bass
     heads, hahahahaha.... I have already caught the attention of
several
     trying to figure me out. Number one sell point, the Solar
Yellow it is
     painted, hehehehe....
     Jason
     1/25/99 10:03 AM

          -----Original Message-----
          From: Michael Guzinski [SMTP:m.gski@CWIX.com]
          Sent: Sunday, January 24, 1999 10:43 PM
          To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net
          Subject: RE: DML: RE: Pioneer (MIKE)
          Alpine makes one I think. The factory Infinity is pretty
good,
     but it
          doesn't have line level outputs for an amp, I am thinking
about
     running my
          factory Infinity and putting on a speaker to line level
     converter if I can
          find on that doesn't add too much distortion.
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          [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@buffnet4.buffnet.net]On Behalf
Of
          bnich@bellatlantic.net
          Sent: Sunday, January 24, 1999 8:27 PM
          To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net
          Subject: Re: DML: RE: Pioneer (MIKE)
          Michael Guzinski wrote:
>
> The 45 has 17wX4rms (35x4max) the 46 has 22wX4rms
(45x4max)
> the 45 has one set of pre-amp outs, the 46 has two sets
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-dakota-truck@buffnet4.buffnet.net
> [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@buffnet4.buffnet.net]On Behalf
Of
> bnich@bellatlantic.net
> Sent: Sunday, January 24, 1999 7:26 PM
> To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net
> Subject: DML: Pioneer Question
>
> Anyone know the difference between the DEH45 and DEH46?
My
     daughter just
> bought the 45 for her Neon. Bob Nichols
          Thanks for the info Mike. Not ready for an amp as of yet, I
was
     just
          wondering how much you wanted for it. I have to pick up the
DEH
     86 1st,
          but gota finish my grill first. You know of anything thats
as
     good as
          the 86 but can play tapes and CD's? Bob Nichols



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