RE: Re: Selling My R/T

From: Bernd D. Ratsch (bernd@texas.net)
Date: Thu May 13 1999 - 17:17:18 EDT


Absolutely correct. Automatic transmissions DO use clutches (not quite the
same as manuals...but the same principle). Normally, there are anywhere
from 6 - 12 discs within the clutch-pack (depending on make and model).
The convertors also allow for some slippage...especially at initial
acceleration. Automatics also require more attention to maintenance than
manuals since they rely heavily on fluid rather than basic lubrication
(like manuals). I admit though, i've seen and built some very nice
automatics (727, 904, C4, TH350, and TH400's) in my time.

Uhhh...I know i've been guilty of keeping the conversation going...but when
will we ever stop on this subject?

At 03:39 PM 05/13/1999 -0500, you wrote:
>I don't know a whole lot about transmissions and I'm sure someone else who
>does know alot will interject with the proper explanation.. but until then-
>
>an automatic transmission DOES use a clutch type mechanism (not the same as
>a manual). I believe they call it a stall converter or something like that.
>Therefore automatic transmissions CAN slip after a lot of use just like
>manual clutches. I've had it happen on an older car I used to own so I know
>what I'm talking about there.
>
>-Eric
>
>
>Black '99 Dakota Sport
>4x4 Club Cab
>5.2L 318 Automatic
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mike Crumley [mailto:mcrumley@airmail.net]
>Sent: Thursday, May 13, 1999 3:11 PM
>To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net
>Subject: Re: DML: Re: Selling My R/T
>
>
>At 01:08 PM 5/12/99 , you wrote:
>>ok, so you are trying to tell me that an auto (flame suit on now)
>>doesn't slip?
>
>No, I'm trying to tell you that an auto tranny doesn't have a clutch like a
>manual.
>
>>I have pulled 30 ft fifth wheel travel trailers with both an
>>88' Dodge 350 Cummins auto and a 94 Dodge 3500 cummins 5spd and the clutch
>>never slipped
>
>Guess I didn't make myself clear. I wasn't talking about the clutch
>slipping when it's engaged but rather slipping as it's *being* engaged. In
>other words, as you're letting the clutch out it starts to grab a little
>but it's also slipping. It continues to slip until it becomes fully
>engaged. (If you don't believe me try driving around with your foot resting
>on the clutch.) Common sense and the laws of physics dictate that the
>heaver the load you're trying to get moving, the more wear and tear on the
>clutch. It doesn't matter how expert you are at using the clutch, the
>heaver the load, the more wear on the clutch. Auto tranny...no clutch, no
>problem :-)
>
>> Like I stated before, properly geared and ponied, a 5spd will outperform
>an
>>auto every time.
>
>Outperform--no comment. If a couple of hundred pounds of towing capacity
>makes that much difference, you probably need a bigger truck anyway.
>Outlast--I don't *think* so. There are always exception to the rule, but on
>average, properly geared and ponied :-) an auto will give you more trouble
>and maintenance free towing. (flame suit....aww, screw it. Flame away.)
>
>
>
>Mike Crumley 97 V6 Auto
>mail to: mcrumley@airmail.net
>
>I always keep a supply of stimulant handy in case
>I see a snake, which I also keep handy. -- W.C. Fields



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