Re: Water in Oil

From: GS- (GSWillhite@ualr.edu)
Date: Wed Dec 08 1999 - 11:25:44 EST


EUUUWWWW!What Shaun said, think I'll keep my 5.2
for awhile.

GS -

  Shaun.Hendricks@bergenbrunswig.com wrote:
> First off, you are assuming its condensation, not a wise assumption. I
> question the condensation angle as how does the water vapor get in there in
> the first place? Your breather system is made to re-burn any oil vapors and
> upon cooling it should not be pulling moist air back into the engine. If it
> is, I have a huge problem with that. If it's not, and let's say for arguments
> sake, that there is an engineering failure with the engine (very possible,
> it's a brand new motor, first time ever used). Let's say there's a minor
> warpage of the heads that develops, or a small channel in the sleeve that if
> put in a certain way connects with a water channel. Or a new style gasket
> isn't fully sealing. Small amounts of water could seep into the system. The
> description was GREEN scum which sounds to me like anti-freeze, not
> condensation. So I wouldn't be so cavalier about the problem. When I buy a
> new car, I don't want a single drop of water in my oil. If there is, I want
> another engine or car. This is a sign of future problems waiting to happen.
> But hey, it's your money, you can deal with it as you please.
>
> As little as a teaspoon of water in your oil can cause your oil to fail in
> it's primary job of lubrication. You also have rust issues, problems with
> viscosity, and it breaks down the oil very rapidly. It also has a tendency to
> foam the oil, or form "scum" layers that can clog ports and oil flow. Just
> wait until you burn a valve, score a cylinder wall, spin a main bearing or
> have some other major failure of the motor. It may not happen immediately,
> but in a persisting condition, I WILL guarantee failure of the motor. It
> doesn't take gallons. If I ever found water in my oil, I'd change the oil
> immediately and run the engine for a while. I'd drain the oil and look at it
> in a large glass container. If I still saw water in it, the engine gets
> ripped apart to find the leak in the system. If there was no water then I
> would consider the condition to be a condensation or one-time only problem.
> Just to be sure I'd check the oil again after about 200-500 miles to make sure
> no water is back. Of course, my dak isn't brand new, but then again, I don't
> have water in my oil.
>
> Overall, I guess I'm a hyper alarmist and this is just a minor condition that
> seems to be a nuisance.... or maybe not, your choice.
>
> Shaun H.
> - ---original message---
> Shaun, just curious, what is your reasoning in saying that water is death to
> an engine?? Maybe if I poured a gallon in there, but condensation?? we're
> talking like very little water here?
> What do you think water will do to the engine???
> Matt



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