I dunno...
the vette is cool and all, but people don't pay attention to vette's
because they are a dime a dozen. You roll up in a Viper, you turn heads.
It's an exclusivity thing. The Viper is faster than a $120k Porsche 911
Turbo, but the exclusivity of the Porsche makes it worth the extra $$
IMHO.
Another point, I remember the first Hennesey Viper that Motor Trend
tested. They said it was fast, but street tires couldn't hang. Needed
full on race tires to witness it's full potential. And they also said "Do
NOT drive this car in the rain!" What I'm sayin' is, how safe would this
car be if it came from mopar with 500 hp? How many people would wrap em'
around trees? I think it's the "sue McDonalds for my mistakes" Syndrome
that keeps these automakers from putting super sportscars on the road. It
only takes one idiot to screw things up for everybody....
-mike d.
---> Yorktown, Va.
miggitymike@juno.com
88 6er LE, lowered, modded, and painted =)
http://members.xoom.com/dakotaperf/index.html
On Fri, 14 Jan 2000 07:59:16 -0500 "Morrison, Dennis"
<DMorriso@ciena.com> writes:
> It seems to me like the big game on these "supermussle" cars is BIG
> $$$$. Well take for instance the viper/vette they go for around
> 70k/50k. With about 20k-50k or so you can have a great fast car.
> What the hell is that crap. I just spent $70,000, it should already
> be that fast. They are both wonderful cars and I think they both
> look great. But there is no way I would tear apart my 70k/50k car
> and void any warranty to make it a little faster, maybe in 5 years.
> And we can all argue, for instance this Vette cost the guy 65k and
> beat the Viper, ok modified but the same price. I AM NOT COMPARING
> THE 2, JUST PROVING A $$$$ POINT. and Yes you can take a Ford
> Festiva and stick 20K into it and make it fast. I know the story.
> But I am a little pissed at both Chevy and Dodge for not putting out
> a great AMERICAN car that is "no holds barred".
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jon Steiger [mailto:stei0302@cs.fredonia.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2000 8:38 PM
> To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net
> Subject: Re: DML: SAD DAY FOR THE VIPER
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, 13 Jan 2000 Dester223@aol.com wrote:
>
> > I'd say there are a lot of cars out there can can run 10s and low
> 9s for
> > about 65k. The viper is a very fast car, and if you had the dough
> to put the
> > stryker twin turbo setup on it. it'd be BAD ASS. my friend told
> me about it
> > and he said horsepower was over 1,000? I'm not sure on the exact
> figures,
> > but hell, That viper won't lose to do damn vette.
> > -Dester
>
>
> Check out the 12/99 issue of Mopar Action for the full scoop.
> Its
> intercooled and uses 2 Garrett T4 turbos running at 15psi. (CR is
> 8.5:1)
> It gets a new crank, rods, pistons, and the heads are ported to be
> able to
> use bigger valves. (2.02" intake, 1.6" exhaust) The intake is
> extrudehoned, and of course its got a custom exhaust, headers, etc.
> It
> uses a custom computer that you can program via a laptop. Injectors
> are
> rated at 50lb each. The half shafts were replaced with CV joints
> and
> a Dana 60. It still uses the T-56 tranny which has been beefed up a
> bit.
>
> They didn't give any exact times, but its supposed to run 9's in
> the
> quarter. (This is with 3.07 gears and a suspension set up for road
> racing.) Supposedly, this much power is about all the stock chassis
> can handle; if you want to go faster, a tube frame with the same
> drivetrain is good for 7's.
>
> The Mopar Action article says it has 1100hp, but according to
> SVS's
> web site, its 993 bhp and 1142 lb-ft. The nice thing is that its
> totally streetable.
>
> All this for only $120,000, installed. :-) If you'd like to
> place
> an order, their web site is at http://supervipersystems.com/
>
>
> -Jon-
>
> .--- jon@dakota-truck.net -- or -- stei0302@cs.fredonia.edu
> ------------.
> | Jon Steiger * AOPA, DoD, EAA, MP Race Team, NMA, SPA, USUA *
> RP-SEL |
> | '92 Ram 150 4x4 V8, '96 Dakota V8, '96 Intruder 1400, '96
> FireFly 447 |
> `----------------------------
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