Re: Suped 318 or 360

From: Aaron (acolona@i-55.com)
Date: Sun Apr 30 2000 - 14:27:23 EDT


I agree the 351 is a great block. I was just pointing to the fact that a
"small" 302 when correctly built is a bad mother******. but I'm comparing
apples to apples. the 318 to the 360 to me isn't worth the cubes.

----- Original Message -----
From: <TommFern@aol.com>
To: <dakota-truck@buffnet.net>
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2000 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: DML: Suped 318 or 360

> In a message dated 4/29/00 2:09:18 AM Central Daylight Time,
acolona@i-55.com
> writes:
>
> <<
> I wasn't gonna jump in on this one, but oh well. a 318 will outrun a 360
any
> day of the week as far as durability. also, the shorter stroke makes it a
> better suited engine for racing. the only reason a 360 works as well as
it
> does is because these trucks are heavy and the 360 is a torque motor.
it's
> always been known as the "work" motor. ask any "old" Mopar fan and he'll
> tell you the 318 and 340's were the horsepower makers, and will walk
circles
> around a 360. take a 360 and a 318 and put them both in 3200 pound sports
> cars, and you'll never want to hear the word 360 again. that's why the
ford
> 302 is one of the best small blocks ever built. you can't kill them, and
the
> stroke/bore design allows them to run some serious times. they have 302
> mustangs that run 8's, and I bet you if anyone told them to dump it for a
> 351 they'd laugh in their face. yes, cubes are better, but only in the
right
> combination. if I want to pull stumps out the back yard, I'll get an r/t.
> but since I'm looking for a motor that's gonna run like a bat out of hell
> and last till hell freezes over, gimme a 318.
> >>
> I can only agree partially. Yes, the 318 does have slightly better
angles
> to work from. The durability I feel is also better IF your thinking of
> putting 200,000 miles on it. But I've run both and the 360 will out
> horsepower and TQ the 318 in almost every application. This is especially
> true when it comes to our applications, which are so limited based on the
> computer. The best way to help is just to add cubes. Nobody is spinning
their
> motor to 8000 rpm the last time I checked. I used to run mid 13s on the
318,
> now I run 12s on the 360.
> I have been involved in the 5.0L world for some time. I can tell you
those
> guys would almost always prefer the 351 windsor over the 318. First, it's
a
> much stronger block. The mains,webbing are much more meaty. This is
> undebateable. The 351 also lends itself to much easier stroking. Talk
about
> bad rod angles, take a look at a 302 stroked to a 347. A lot of shops
don't
> even reccomend it anymore. The reason those guys are using the 302 is one;
> the rules, and two; the added expense of putting in the 351. Remember, the
> 351 has a taller deck height which means a cowl hood, different
> bracketry,distributor,etc. all the fast guys on the cheap were running
> stroked windsors on gas. They were cleaning up.
> Tom(11s dak)
>



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