Kyle,
I agree with Tom, here. He beat me to the post. I don't go along with
your statement, "They simply made tons of promises they couldnt keep
and were very unprofessional, in my opinion. " I think it was more a
case of people expecting more than Frank & Bruce ever said they would be
able to do.
>From the outset both Frank and Bruce said they were doing this on their
own time at no profit to help people who wanted an alternative to the
high prices that were being charged by others. To keep costs low, they
reworked returned cores from people who bought their TBs rather than
buying and modifying new TBs (unless that was what you wanted). The
response was greater than they expected and since they had real jobs
which paid their bills, they got behind. But what really got them behind
was people not returning their cores so that Frank and Bruce could mod
them and send them to the next customer. This was ENTIRELY beyond their
control.
As far as professionalism, they spent a lot of time on the flow bench and
working with the stock and performance computers to get the best results.
They even tested a "Stage II" TB which people clamored for but did not
offer it because their tests proved it didn't help performance. some
companies sure wouldn't have let that stop them.
I am very happy with the TB that I got from Frank & Bruce. The
workmanship, quality and results are outstanding. Yes, it took a long
time to get it, but as Frank and Bruce often said, "If you're in a hurry,
you might want to consider someone else." I almost did. I almost went
with that Kabuki guy. What a mistake that would have been. I bet he'd
have been glad to sell me a Stage II TB. I don't understand knocking
people who are out to help us. There aren't that many places to go for
quality parts for Dodge stuff, especially at good prices . Let's not PO a
good supplier who might someday turn this hobby into a business.
I'm glad that you looked at the situation and said I'll go with Tony
because I want my TB now. I know that you got a great, high quality part.
I'm glad that we have people on the list who can help us out like this.
Richard in San Antonio
On Wed, 17 May 2000 22:22:49 -0400 fawcett@uism.bu.edu writes:
> I dunno, Kyle. This may be the first time you and I disagree but I
> get the
> distinct impression that F&B do this strictly as a part-time thing
> while
> pulling some serious hours at their regular jobs. Tony on the other
> hand seems
> to be able to spend a lot more time and can therefore focus a bit
> better on
> this kind of stuff. Don't read me wrong!, I'm not dissing either,
> I'm just
> saying one is more or less "in the biz" and one is not. False
> promises not
> withstanding, I think a couple of guys doing this in their spare
> time with no
> apparent profit motive deserve a bit of credit. Aside from that,
> some of the
> technical data (and experience) Frank has put forth has real value
> and has
> built a lot of credibility in my mind...
>
> Just my $3.18 worth.
> Tom
>
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> _________________________________
> Subject: Re: DML: F&B throttle body
> Author: <dakota-truck@buffnet.net> at smtpout
> Date: 5/17/00 6:03 PM
>
>
> > I just talked to Bruce this afternoon. He's had my check for 250
> American
> > for better than two months now. Here's the story: He's run out
> of parts
> > for the TBs. He thought he'd get them from Frank about two weeks
> ago, but
> > nothing yet. I finally got tired of waiting and had him send my
> check
> back.
> > He was very gracious and apologized...but I still don't have a
> TB. I
> > guess they're working on a billet aluminum TB for release sometime
> this
> > summer.
>
> This is why I didnt go with them when I wanted TB. They simply made
> tons of
> promises they couldnt keep and were very unprofessional, in my
> opinion.
> Email Tony at QuickD Performance and he will hook you up with a good
> quality TB.
> www.quickd.com
>
> Kyle
> 93 Dakota 4x4 V6
>
>
>
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