Ditto what Richard said.
I can't speak for any promises they made you Kyle, but when I delt
with B&F they were very professional and really went the extra mile.
Yes it did take around 6 months for me to get mine, but they were very
up-front about the fact that it was going to take them a while. It
seems the '93 core is different than the other years (I think it had
something to do with the shaft size) and so it took them quite a while
to track one down for me. When the deal was finalized they took real
good care of me.
Tony sounds like a super guy as well, and from what I've heard I
wouldn't hesitate to put one of his TB's on my truck.
Anyway, sorry you had a bad experience with F&B.
--Mike www.mikesdakota.com
Thursday, May 18, 2000, 11:15:57 AM, you wrote:
> Kyle,
> I agree with Tom, here. He beat me to the post. I don't go along with
> your statement, "They simply made tons of promises they couldnt keep
> and were very unprofessional, in my opinion. " I think it was more a
> case of people expecting more than Frank & Bruce ever said they would be
> able to do.
> From the outset both Frank and Bruce said they were doing this on their
> own time at no profit to help people who wanted an alternative to the
> high prices that were being charged by others. To keep costs low, they
> reworked returned cores from people who bought their TBs rather than
> buying and modifying new TBs (unless that was what you wanted). The
> response was greater than they expected and since they had real jobs
> which paid their bills, they got behind. But what really got them behind
> was people not returning their cores so that Frank and Bruce could mod
> them and send them to the next customer. This was ENTIRELY beyond their
> control.
> As far as professionalism, they spent a lot of time on the flow bench and
> working with the stock and performance computers to get the best results.
> They even tested a "Stage II" TB which people clamored for but did not
> offer it because their tests proved it didn't help performance. some
> companies sure wouldn't have let that stop them.
> I am very happy with the TB that I got from Frank & Bruce. The
> workmanship, quality and results are outstanding. Yes, it took a long
> time to get it, but as Frank and Bruce often said, "If you're in a hurry,
> you might want to consider someone else." I almost did. I almost went
> with that Kabuki guy. What a mistake that would have been. I bet he'd
> have been glad to sell me a Stage II TB. I don't understand knocking
> people who are out to help us. There aren't that many places to go for
> quality parts for Dodge stuff, especially at good prices . Let's not PO a
> good supplier who might someday turn this hobby into a business.
> I'm glad that you looked at the situation and said I'll go with Tony
> because I want my TB now. I know that you got a great, high quality part.
> I'm glad that we have people on the list who can help us out like this.
> Richard in San Antonio
> On Wed, 17 May 2000 22:22:49 -0400 fawcett@uism.bu.edu writes:
>> I dunno, Kyle. This may be the first time you and I disagree but I
>> get the
>> distinct impression that F&B do this strictly as a part-time thing
>> while
>> pulling some serious hours at their regular jobs. Tony on the other
>> hand seems
>> to be able to spend a lot more time and can therefore focus a bit
>> better on
>> this kind of stuff. Don't read me wrong!, I'm not dissing either,
>> I'm just
>> saying one is more or less "in the biz" and one is not. False
>> promises not
>> withstanding, I think a couple of guys doing this in their spare
>> time with no
>> apparent profit motive deserve a bit of credit. Aside from that,
>> some of the
>> technical data (and experience) Frank has put forth has real value
>> and has
>> built a lot of credibility in my mind...
>>
>> Just my $3.18 worth.
>> Tom
>>
>> ______________________________ Reply Separator
>> _________________________________
>> Subject: Re: DML: F&B throttle body
>> Author: <dakota-truck@buffnet.net> at smtpout
>> Date: 5/17/00 6:03 PM
>>
>>
>> > I just talked to Bruce this afternoon. He's had my check for 250
>> American
>> > for better than two months now. Here's the story: He's run out
>> of parts
>> > for the TBs. He thought he'd get them from Frank about two weeks
>> ago, but
>> > nothing yet. I finally got tired of waiting and had him send my
>> check
>> back.
>> > He was very gracious and apologized...but I still don't have a
>> TB. I
>> > guess they're working on a billet aluminum TB for release sometime
>> this
>> > summer.
>>
>> This is why I didnt go with them when I wanted TB. They simply made
>> tons of
>> promises they couldnt keep and were very unprofessional, in my
>> opinion.
>> Email Tony at QuickD Performance and he will hook you up with a good
>> quality TB.
>> www.quickd.com
>>
>> Kyle
>> 93 Dakota 4x4 V6
>>
>>
>>
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