RE: RE: Dakota Lemon

From: Stlaurent Mr Steven (STLAURENTS@mctssa.usmc.mil)
Date: Mon Jul 10 2000 - 15:43:17 EDT


Must be the same assembly line my bowtie came down. Transmission went at
44,000. I had in three times, telling them it has problem shifting. Well!
When it finally broke the service department at another dealer could not
believe it. Since it had a 100K warranty from GM, get this! I had to wait
to an appraiser saw it first. That didn't last long after talking to the
General Manager and gave him the CUSTOMER ADVISE - "FIX IT OR IT SHALL BE
CALLED IN AS A LEMON." I was given an equal rental vehicle and they paid
for everything. Including anything else I could find wrong with the vehicle.

After that, I had hope that my better half learned from this mistake.

Sean, you right. Not all the manufacture is bad. Some of the other
factories are just plain "STUPID AN DON'T CARE ATTITUDE". Well! When the
consumer stops buying that particular brand of model, then PINK SLIP
BABY!!!!!

But then I can list some good Chevy product lines but the truck/vans line
has some cleaning up in their management of Quality control measures.

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Steven St.Laurent
Test Engineer
Test Branch, GSD, MCTSSA
MARCORSYSCOM, USMC
760-725-2506 (DSN 365-2506)
Work:mailto:stlaurents@mctssa.usmc.mil
Home:mailto:saint1958@home.com

 -----Original Message-----
From: Sean Bruckman [mailto:bruckman@urisp.com]
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2000 12:23 PM
To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net
Subject: Re: DML: RE: Dakota Lemon

I have a buddy here in town that is 19, making good money splicing fiber
optics. This prompted him to buy a brand new SS Camaro at the beginning of
last summer. That was a nice car, he street raced and had many
modifications, some he didn't like to talk about. It was solid, well built,
looked great, and i have seen 0-60 slips that show him at 3.9s. Then he got
the bright idea that a "car" wasn't him and he needed a truck. So he went
with the same manufacturer. He spent even more money on a top of the line
Chevy Z71 extended cab beast. He has had so many problems with it, it makes
him, me, and the rest of his friends sick. It is a pathetic piece of crap.
Looks nice, but it's made from actual dog crap. I'm sure of it. Electronics
have broken, the transmission is going out, the engine no longer has the
torque to move forward or backward at idle, and the dealer has repainted it
once. He has NOT RACED IT--he has babied it completely--and if you can
believe it he also babied his camaro.

Just had to mention that in response to the statement that chevy has the
quality of dodge. I'm sure the crank out a few good ones every once in a
while, but chevy has the same problem as ford. Half of the factories of both
the manufacturers have a good product coming out, the other half of all the
factories have ridiculous levels of inconsistancy and management problems.
They have been struggling to nail down these inconsistencies for years, but
they don't have the good people that Chrysler does. Heck, if both companies
cut half their line, reduced product overlap and trimmed back management and
other poor performers, they could make more money than they do now. They
only dream of the profit margins DC sees.

Hope you liked the rant,

Sean

----- Original Message -----
From: Stlaurent Mr Steven <STLAURENTS@mctssa.usmc.mil>
To: <dakota-truck@buffnet.net>
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2000 10:35 AM
Subject: RE: DML: RE: Dakota Lemon

> Derek, you have choice, "Performance or non-performance". Yes! I can
agree
> the 4.7 can be hungry for gas when the pedal is to the metal.
>
> Chevy 5.x or the 6.x is the better value vehicle with the Chevy. My
friend,
> who is across the hall has two of them (2000 models). One with the 6 and
> the other a 8. He regrets in buying the 6 and wish for another 8.
>
> I can't blame you Derek, since I own a Bowtie with poor quality but gets
> great gas mileage. It makes damn mad when you expect the vehicle to
perform
> and not break down. But then I get poor gas mileage Dakota but great
> performance and no problems with the truck.
>
> If you planned to purchase a Chevy, wait for the 2001, which will increase
> the HP by another 25HP in there 5.X and 6.X motors but don't opt for the
> 4.x. GMC is revising there face on there truck line versus Chevy.
> -------------------------------------------
> Steven St.Laurent
> Test Engineer
> Test Branch, GSD, MCTSSA
> MARCORSYSCOM, USMC
> 760-725-2506 (DSN 365-2506)
> Work:mailto:stlaurents@mctssa.usmc.mil
> Home:mailto:saint1958@home.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Derek [mailto:derekm@dowco.com]
> Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2000 5:56 PM
> To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net
> Subject: Re: DML: RE: Dakota Lemon
>
> I hope so 14mpg out of a v6 4x4 is pathetic the dealer is trying to get me
> into the same truck as mine but with a 4.7 but from the look of things on
> the dml they arent that great either. So ive been looking at full size
> chevs, i know that is a bad word around here but i have 3 friends that
have
> them and their 4.8 with 270 hp extended cab 4x4s are getting 24-27 mpg on
> the highway and they say the rest of the truck is pretty darn good. But
well
> see.
>
> "Steven St.Laurent" wrote:
>
> > Good luck Derek. I hope you find a better vehicle next time.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-dakota-truck@buffnet.net
> > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@buffnet.net]On Behalf Of Derek
> > Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2000 1:42 PM
> > To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net
> > Subject: DML: Dakota Lemon
> >
> > Hey does anyone know where to find the lemon laws for vehicles in canada
> > this dak has to go back.
> >
> > thanks



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