RE: RE: Lightning spank...attn Steven St.Laurent

From: Stlaurent Mr Steven (STLAURENTS@mctssa.usmc.mil)
Date: Wed Jul 26 2000 - 15:59:56 EDT


Ok! Why didn't pack a bigger bag for me to fit in for the Milan trip? He
He Someone people. Sheesh..

What mods did he purchased to increase his to 20 ponies. We have a Marine
who has a 99 version also. He is very interested to do the same.

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Steven St.Laurent
Test Engineer
Test Branch, GSD, MCTSSA
MARCORSYSCOM, USMC
760-725-2506 (DSN 365-2506)
Work:mailto:stlaurents@mctssa.usmc.mil
Home:mailto:saint1958@home.com

 -----Original Message-----
From: Charles Wyman [mailto:cewyma@roushind.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 10:51 AM
To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net
Subject: Re: DML: RE: Lightning spank...attn Steven St.Laurent

Steven,

>Ok Chuck, either the driver was a complete idiot or that surely was a fake
>truck. But if it is the old one it ran in the high 15s or low 16s,
>depending on the driver. After driven one, I was deeply impressed how much
>power it had with the 4 speed auto. Especially the low end burn-outs.

Yes it was an old one. If you are right on the times "high 15's or low
16's", I should run right along with him. And yes it seemed that the driver
knew what he was doing. When he left the light he didn't have much wheel
spin at all...which tells me either he knew how to drive or he didn't have
enough power to spin the wheels. Those old Lightnings had 351's in them,
which should spin the wheels with no problem. His truck is also a lot older
than mine...which usually means more wear and tear. If it was high 15's low
16's from the dealer and he didn't do any mods I'm sure it's probably
running a little slower now.

>But you know that all ready since you
>guys do the SVT engineering work. My question, why didn't Roush change out
>the rear gear for a smaller one since it was designed for high street
>performance not hauling crap around?

Let me just say, "we don't get everything we want". Ford still has the last
say in our designs. I'm also not sure if the trans would hold up as well.
Even though it's a Ford, it still has a lot of power.

>You were right on with the 13s 1/4 mile times for that truck but I could
see
>even 12 or 11s with additional mods.

I ran into a guy from FRD (Ford Race Development) at Milan last week. He
added the following to his 99.5 lightning: a chip, intake, & headers. He
had a time slip showing 12.86! He also said he was getting the 2001 parts
to increase the HP by about 20 ponies.

>The top-end on the Ford Lightning is around 148 MPH.

This sounds about right. My buddy that owns one had his up to 145 mph.

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Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 06:42:59 -0700
From: Stlaurent Mr Steven <STLAURENTS@mctssa.usmc.mil>
Subject: DML: RE: Lightning spank...

Ok Chuck, either the driver was a complete idiot or that surely was a fake
truck. But if it is the old one it ran in the high 15s or low 16s,
depending on the driver. After driven one, I was deeply impressed how much
power it had with the 4 speed auto. Especially the low end burn-outs. You
were right on with the 13s 1/4 mile times for that truck but I could see
even 12 or 11s with additional mods. But you know that all ready since you
guys do the SVT engineering work. My question, why didn't Roush change out
the rear gear for a smaller one since it was designed for high street
performance not hauling crap around?

The top-end on the Ford Lightning is around 148 MPH.

I've seen the latest info for the 2001 Lightning and it claims a 380HP now.
But what I have read on the Cobra R, the engine is really a 420-430 SAE HP
and 376 RWHP. I guess Ford doesn't want another law suite again.

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Steven St.Laurent
Test Engineer
Test Branch, GSD, MCTSSA
MARCORSYSCOM, USMC
760-725-2506 (DSN 365-2506)
Work:mailto:stlaurents@mctssa.usmc.mil
Home:mailto:saint1958@home.com

 -----Original Message-----
From: Charles Wyman [mailto:cewyma@roushind.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 4:49 AM
To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net
Subject: DML: Lightning spank...

First off let me clarify that I'm not sure if it was a "real"
Lightning...and yes it was the older style. The reason I'm not sure if it
was a real Lightning is because instead of the tube rear bumper it had a
painted step bumper. It also had the "Lightning" decal in bright orange vs
the stock blue decal. Other than that it looked exactly like a Lightning.
It sounded pretty bad a$$ though. Back to the story...I was coming home
from a day at the golf course and was getting on the express. So, of course
I was on the gas. I pulled up along side this guy in what I thought was
just a F-150, then I saw the Lightning decal and heard a nice rumble from
his exhaust. He gave it a little gas then let off a few times, and I did
the same. Next thing you know we both punched it doing about 75 mph. With
my 3.92 gear I think I had the advantage with my RPM's already at over 2000
RPM. I pulled away from him with no problems. I kept it to the floor and I
was way ahead of him when I!
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ooked down at the speedo...~125 MPH!!!!!!! The reason it is approximated is
because my speedo only goes up to 120. I guess the Mopar PCM really did
remove the speed limiter. I slowed down, since I was getting off the
express way. This allowed the Lightning to catch up and it turns out he was
getting off at the same exit. As soon as we got off the e-way, we were
lined up at a light. I couldn't of planed it if I wanted to. I jumped out
ahead of him through first and second. He pulled up a little closer when I
shifted into third...damn pause between second and third. But, he never
pulled ahead of me. By then we were hitting some traffic and then he turned
rather abruptly down a side street. I guess he was pissed off or something.
Do these guys in the Fords ever learn? That is the second, old style
Lightning, I've raced and won. Does anyone know what these things ran in
the 1/4 when they were stock?

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Chuck
'00 Flame Red Durango SLT+
5.9L, 4x4, 3.92 LSD, R/T wheels (Goodyear Eagle GT II 275/60/R17)
2.5" Dynomax Magnum Race Series cat back exhaust, Mopar Performance PCM
Quick-D T-body & intake, Autolite 3923 plugs, Mobil 1 oil & filter
best 1/4 mile (stock): 16.08 @ 84 mph
www.geocities.com/papa_c_d/
cewyma@roushind.com
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