Re: Re: Amsoil - Gear & motor oil; oil filter recommendaton

From: Kyle Kozubal (grndak4x4@home.com)
Date: Wed Jul 26 2000 - 19:01:04 EDT


> << I also run it in my transfer case, Amsoil ATF that is. Dont ever put
Mobil
> 1 ATF in your tcase, ever. >>
>
> Ummm, may I ask the perhaps un-obvious question of...WHY? I've had Mobil 1
> ATF in my T-case for awhile now, no problems (as a matter of fact I use
Mobil
> 1 for EVERYTHING since day one and I'm at 103,000 miles)....just personal
> preference of Amsoil or is there some deep-seated, real problem?

Dave,
Maybe you missed all my posts over the last month concerning that fact that
I had NO 4WD; 4HI or 4LO. I would pull the tcase lever back, and upon
acceration, the lever would pop right back into 2WD. When I tried to engage
4LO, the lever wouldnt even go into gear and the lever was unusually hard to
pull back. I thought I was due for a tcase rebuild or something. These
symptoms started about a week or two after I flushed and filled the tcase up
with Mobil 1 Synthetic ATF. Before this, I have always used Amsoil ATF in
the tcase, with zero problems. I didnt attribute the 4WD problems to my use
of Mobil 1, as I just thought ATF must be ATF. On a last ditch effort, I
looked in the owner's manual which can with my truck. It clearly states to
use ATF+3 7176(2.6 pints), and if this isnt available or cant be found, use
Dexron III ATF. I went to my local auto part store, and looked at a quart of
the Mobil 1 ATF I used. The bottle of Mobil 1 ATF only states that it covers
one type of application, GM Dexron III ATF. So I bought 4 quarts of
Valvoline ATF+3, which is 7176 rated. I drained all the Mobil 1 ATF out and
flushed the tcase out with the Valvoline ATF+3. I put the drain plug back in
and filled it up with the Valvoline +3 ATF. I took the truck out and the 4WD
system, 4HI and 4LO, worked flawlessly. Since this occured on a weekend, I
had to wait till Monday to go to my local Amsoil dealer to buy Amsoil ATF,
something I should have done in the first place and never messed around with
Mobil 1.
Read on.....it gets better........
*Amsoil ATF Covers These Applications:
-Chrysler ATF+, ATF+2, MS-7176D
-GM Dexron III
-Ford Mercon
-GM Strasbourg (European Imports) and Opel
-Mercedes-Benz AG 236.6
-Allison C-3 & C-4
-Caterpillar Powershift Transmission TO-2 & TO-3
-Clark Powershift Transmission
-ZF Commercial
-Transmission HP500 & HP600
-Voith Commercial Transmissions
-Volkswagen and Renault Service Fill
-Sundstrand Pump Tested
-Sperry Vickers Mobile (M-2950S) and Industrial (I-286S) Hydraulics
-Power Steering Units
-Haglunds-Denison, HF-0 Pump Performance

*Mobil 1 ATF Covers These Applications:
-GM Dexron III
-Ford Mercon
-Allison C-4, Caterpillar TO-2 for on-and off-highway heavy-duty
transmissions
-Denison HFO pump test
-Vickers 35VQ25 vane pump test
-Sundstrand piston pump test

***Here is the catch of Mobil 1 ATF***
"It also can provide good performance in cars originally requiring Ford Type
H (M2C166-H) and CJ (M2C138-CJ) fluids. It is not a substitute for Chrysler
Type 7176 ATF."

I can only say it did not work at all in my truck, and therefore I would
HIGHLY suggest to stay away
from Mobil 1 ATF and using it in your Dakota.
Kyle
93 Dakota 4x4 V6



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