no tie down on mine, and it doesn't move at all!
t0m (R/C V-6)
st. louis
-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Harris <aharris@signcast.com>
To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net <dakota-truck@buffnet.net>
Date: Monday, July 31, 2000 10:56 PM
Subject: DML: RE: Poor Boy Intake Filter Specs Found! (and hanger question)
:David --
:
:See, the MO connection comes through! As I had no response the past couple
:of days to that question I ordered the 0810 today from Wise Speed Shop here
:in St. Louis, but I'm going to have to call them tomorrow to see if I can
:change it to the 0920 thanks to the info you dug up. I got my PVC and
:stainless clamp today, so I'm just waiting on the filter. I know I'd have
it
:quicker if I ordered from Summit, but I like to support local business.
:
:Another question for anyone: some have used a strap hanger but I know I've
:seen someone say their intake actually rests in there very nicely without
:one. Any further info on this choice from people with the intake mod? I'd
:like to avoid drilling holes (shudder) in my truck if I can, but I don't
:want that thing flyin' around the engine compartment.
:
:Many thanks for the assist, Dave!
:
:Alex Harris
:St. Louis, MO
:00 RC SLT V6 5-Speed
:
:> -----Original Message-----
:> From: David Albrecht
:> Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 11:10 PM
:> Subject: DML: Poor Boy Intake Filter Specs Found!
:>
:>
:> Nate (and other DML users)! I noticed some discussion on the
:> list as to the
:> difference between a couple of filters being used for the poorboy intake
:> system. Well I ordered my filter tonight from Summit and found out the
:> difference between the RE0920 filter that your site listed and the RE0810
:> that was being discussed on the list. I had to call their tech
:> dept and the
:> guy said it was a pain in the ass to look up the specs but he did it so
:> thanks goes to him. These two filters are exactly the same except for
one
:> aspect...The inside diameter of the flange end. The filter listed on
your
:> site (RE0920) has a 3.5 inch inside diameter which is perfect if you are
:> using a 3" PVC pipe for the poorboy since the outer diameter of the 3"
PVC
:> is 3.5". The flexible tubing off the air hat actually has a 3" inside
:> diameter, but it does stretch over the PVC fitting. The only
:> mistake that I
:> found on your site was that it listed the diameter of the flange end as
:> being 3" when it should be 3.5". I'm not sure how flexible these filter
:> flanges are so I don't know if the RE0810 would stretch out over the 3.5"
:> pipe. What would be ideal is to use that filter and use a pipe
:> that had an
:> outer diameter of 3". I don't think I have ever seen PVC offered in 1/2"
:> sizes such as a 2.5" ID which would give you a 3" OD. Hope this helps
:> anyone out there still confused and if I have just said something that
:> someone else had found out and already posted I guess it won't hurt to
say
:> it again! If anyone has found out anything different then we need to
call
:> Summit tech and give them some shit!
:>
:> David Albrecht
:> Central Missouri
:>
:> ----- Original Message -----
:> From: Nate Johnson <natedak2k@yahoo.com>
:> To: David Albrecht <patch@cdsinet.net>
:> Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2000 11:59 AM
:> Subject: Re: Question about poor boy intake again...
:>
:>
:> > If your pipe fits into the flexible tubing from the Airhat
:> it'll fit into
:> > the end of the K&N. The diameter of the K&N and flexible tubing are
the
:> > same... Hmm.. maybe there's a typo on my site? When you get that K&N
:> PLEASE
:> > measure it for me and let me know what the dimensions are... If
:> My site's
:> > wrong I need to fix it!
:> >
:> > I did the small hose the hard way... I drilled a hole in my
:> Po'boy and put
:> a
:> > little nipple in there for the hose to connect to. (you can see
:> it in the
:> > picture at my site). I would say that's probably not the
:> best/easiest way
:> > though... They make little tiny filters/breathers that would plug right
:> into
:> > that tube no problem! And probably look kinda cool too! That air does
:> need
:> > to be filtered though.. I wouldn't just remove it.
:> >
:> > ----- Original Message -----
:> > From: David Albrecht <patch@cdsinet.net>
:> > To: Nate Johnson <natedak2k@yahoo.com>
:> > Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2000 9:25 PM
:> > Subject: Question about poor boy intake again...
:> >
:> >
:> > > Nate...
:> > > I went out and puchased a PVC fitting and piece of pipe today
:> so now all
:> I
:> > > need to do is order the filter. I noticed that the filter you have
:> listed
:> > > has a 3" inside diameter. Is this the diameter of where the pipe
goes
:> > into
:> > > it? The reason I am asking is that I purchased all 3" pipe
:> and fitting
:> > but
:> > > the actually outside diameter of the pipe is 3.5". The pipe
:> will slide
:> > into
:> > > the flexible tube coming off the air box on the throttle body with a
:> > little
:> > > pushing, but will it slide into the end of the filter too? I just
:> wanted
:> > to
:> > > make sure before I ordered the filter. When you purchased
:> your pipe and
:> > > fitting did you go with a 2.5" inside diameter which would
:> give you a 3"
:> > > outside diameter? Just wondering if I got the wrong size stuff or if
:> the
:> > > filter end will stretch like the flex tubing did. One last
:> > question...there
:> > > is a small hose that comes up to the pipe going from the stock box to
:> the
:> > > filter box. What did you do with that? Cap it off? Take it out?
:> Thanks
:> > > so much for the info!!!
:> > >
:> > > David
:> > > ----- Original Message -----
:> > > From: Nate Johnson <natedak2k@yahoo.com>
:> > > To: David Albrecht <patch@cdsinet.net>
:> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 8:21 AM
:> > > Subject: Re: Your Po-boy Intake System
:> > >
:> > >
:> > > > Well, I only had one thing in mind when I said that (things
:> they don't
:> > > > tell you at the dealer). Now, you may already know this but I'll
go
:> > ahead
:> > > > and explain it to ya. You have the capability to force
:> your truck to
:> > > > perform a "self test" of all sensors, the computer, etc... When
you
:> do
:> > > > this it will also "list" any MIL codes stored in the computer! It
:> does
:> > > > this via. the digital odometer. What you do is, with the key in
the
:> > > > ignition but turned off, depress the trip reset button (in the
inst.
:> > > > cluster), and HOLD IT. While holding it in turn the key to the
"ON"
:> > > > position (not start) and keep holding in the trip reset
:> button. Give
:> it
:> > > > about 5 seconds and then you'll see, I believe it's the word
"chec",
:> in
:> > > > the odometer. At this point you can let go of the reset button and
:> > enjoy
:> > > > the show! It'll do a whole bunch of stuff, the odo and
:> guages will go
:> > > > nuts. At the very end of the test if there's any codes
:> stored in the
:> > > > computer it will spit them out one at a time on the
:> odometer! Pretty
:> > cool
:> > > > huh? And you thought you needed a scan tool! hehehe. Now,
:> I've never
:> > > > actually seen the codes spit up, and I hope I never do! But I've
:> spoken
:> > > > to someone who has had a code spit up on a '00 so I know that it
:> works.
:> > > > (Bad O2 sensor from the factory). Anyway, I've enclosed a list of
:> codes
:> > > > for your reference (by far not a complete list).
:> > > >
:> > > > Yeah, Your definitly better off building your own intake. As far
as
:> the
:> > > > intake tube going straight to the TB that's just for looks. If you
:> > don't
:> > > > care what it looks like I wouldn't even worry about
:> removing the stock
:> > air
:> > > > hat. If you take it off (I have) you'll notice that all it is
:> > underneath
:> > > > that big square cover is a 90 degree tube that connects between
the
:> TB
:> > > > and the airbox... Nothing different then a mandrel bent 3"
:> tube! It's
:> > > > alot easier to connect your "po-boy" to that flexible tube
:> too because
:> > it
:> > > > allows a little flexibility.
:> > > >
:> > > > Gibson's seem to be one of the "cat backs" of choice... Good choice
:> > there!
:> > > >
:> > > > Sounds like you've got a sweet truck! I'll definitly recomment the
:> > extang
:> > > > BlackMax snap cover. Excellent cover I've had mine almost a
:> year with
:> no
:> > > > problems and it's adjustable for temp. changes. comes with a 3
year
:> > tarp
:> > > > 5 year rail warrentee to boot!
:> > > > I found my best price here -
http://www.accessconnect.com/extang.htm
:> > > > The manufacturers site is - http://www.extang.com/
:> > > >
:> > > > Good Luck!
:> > > > Nate.
:> > > >
:> > > >
:> > > > --- David Albrecht <patch@cdsinet.net> wrote:
:> > > > > Hey there... Thanks for the info! I got it all printed
:> off and am
:> > > > > thinking of reseting my computer this weekend when I get
:> time. What
:> > did
:> > > > > you mean by things they don't tell you at the dealer's?
:> My truck is
:> a
:> > > > > 2000 Club Cab 4x4 SLT. It has the 4.7L with the auto.
:> It's pretty
:> > much
:> > > > > loaded although I put my CD player in it yesterday that I
:> had in my
:> > > > > other truck. I've been looking at exhausts and the different air
:> > intake
:> > > > > setups you can get. I'll probably go with the GIbson cat back.
I
:> > will
:> > > > > probably try to make my own intake setup like you did...There is
a
:> guy
:> > > > > at www.coffeyjet.com that is making them and selling them. He
is
:> > > > > actually making them so you can remove the stock air box on top
of
:> the
:> > > > > throttle body completely. I wish that he had a closer
:> picture so I
:> > > > > could see how it attached. My plans so far are for the
:> exhaust and
:> > the
:> > > > > intake system first. I'll probably go with a snap top
:> cover for the
:> > > > > bed. My truck came with the trailer package. It was a
:> demo and was
:> > not
:> > > > > orignally ordered with it, but the maintenance manager at the
:> > dealership
:> > > > > was driving it and he had it put on. Anyways...I do love the
:> > > > > truck...rides great....plenty of power....can't wait to try it in
:> the
:> > > > > mud! Well I will talk at ya later...I joined the DML
:> tonight. This
:> > > > > will be my third list I have been on. First it was for a early
:> > > > > bronco...then the toyota 4x4 one..and now this one. Thanks for
:> > > > > everything...
:> > > > >
:> > > > > David Albrecht
:> > > > > Missouri
:> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
:> > > > > From: Nate Johnson
:> > > > > To: David Albrecht
:> > > > > Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2000 10:25 PM
:> > > > > Subject: Re: Your Po-boy Intake System
:> > > > >
:> > > > >
:> > > > > The computer in your Dak "learns" your driving style...
:> Especially
:> > if
:> > > > > you have an auto (which I don't). It takes a few hundred miles
of
:> > > > > "normal" driving to teach the computer what's up. With an auto
:> it'll
:> > > > > adjust shift points fuel and air mapping, and other
:> perimeters with
:> a
:> > > > > stick it just leaves out the shift points (obviously!)
:> Whenever you
:> > > > > perform a mod to the engine, i.e.. air intake, fuel delivery,
:> pulleys,
:> > > > > cams, spark plugs, etc. etc. etc. the computer will take a few
:> hundred
:> > > > > miles to "realize" that something new is going on before it
learns
:> the
:> > > > > new settings. When you reset the computer you, in
:> effect, wipe out
:> > it's
:> > > > > memory and force it to relearn everything it knew with the new
:> > > > > perimeters. To reset the computer you simply disconnect
:> (completely)
:> > > > > the battery and while the battery is disconnected you turn the
key
:> to
:> > > > > start for a few seconds. Obviously nothing will happen but your
:> > > > > computers memory has now been wiped out! You'll
:> immediately notice,
:> > > > > that the truck will behave differently for awhile until
:> it relearns
:> > and
:> > > > > sets itself up. A way to speed up the learning process is to
:> perform
:> > an
:> > > > > OBDII (that's the 96 and newer emissions standard) driving cycle
:> which
:> > > > > is available at my site but I'll attach it here for ya.
:> > > > >
:> > > > > What year Dakota did you get, a 2000? There's a few
:> other goodies
:> > in
:> > > > > there that they don't tell you about at the dealer. If your
:> > interested
:> > > > > just let me know. If you haven't already I STRONGLY
:> suggest you join
:> > the
:> > > > > DML (Dakota mailing list) also. Threre's a wealth of information
:> > there
:> > > > > also. It's basically a list server comprised of about 500 or so
:> > Dakota
:> > > > > owners around the World all discussing their Dakota's. I
:> won't tell
:> > you
:> > > > > everything here though because I'd just be repeating what's at
the
:> > DML's
:> > > > > site. You can take a look at
:> > > > > http://www.cs.fredonia.edu/~stei0302/www/dakota/dakota.html
:> > > > >
:> > > > > Well, good luck and I'm sure you'll LOVE that Dakota!
:> > > > > (see attached OBDII driving cycle.)
:> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
:> > > > > From: David Albrecht
:> > > > > To: natedak2k@yahoo.com
:> > > > > Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2000 9:44 PM
:> > > > > Subject: Your Po-boy Intake System
:> > > > >
:> > > > >
:> > > > > Saw you site...liked the air induction you came up with.
Just
:> one
:> > > > > question...I'm a new Dakota owner (1 week now) and was wondering
:> what
:> > > > > you were taking about when you said "computer reset." Can you
:> > explain?
:> > > > > Thanks...
:> > > > >
:> > > > > David Albrecht
:> > > > > Missouri
:> > > > >
:> > > >
:> > > >
:> > > >
:> > > > =====
:> > > > Nate, Ogden UT
:> > > > http://www.geocities.com/natedak2k
:> > > > Forest Green 00 Dakota CC 4X4, 5-speed, LSD, 3.92 Rear, 4.7L/287ci,
:> > Po'boy
:> > > cold air w/ K&N, Extang BlackMax Tonneau
:> > > > "D2K"
:> > > >
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