David --
See, the MO connection comes through! As I had no response the past couple
of days to that question I ordered the 0810 today from Wise Speed Shop here
in St. Louis, but I'm going to have to call them tomorrow to see if I can
change it to the 0920 thanks to the info you dug up. I got my PVC and
stainless clamp today, so I'm just waiting on the filter. I know I'd have it
quicker if I ordered from Summit, but I like to support local business.
Another question for anyone: some have used a strap hanger but I know I've
seen someone say their intake actually rests in there very nicely without
one. Any further info on this choice from people with the intake mod? I'd
like to avoid drilling holes (shudder) in my truck if I can, but I don't
want that thing flyin' around the engine compartment.
Many thanks for the assist, Dave!
Alex Harris
St. Louis, MO
00 RC SLT V6 5-Speed
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Albrecht
> Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 11:10 PM
> Subject: DML: Poor Boy Intake Filter Specs Found!
>
>
> Nate (and other DML users)! I noticed some discussion on the
> list as to the
> difference between a couple of filters being used for the poorboy intake
> system. Well I ordered my filter tonight from Summit and found out the
> difference between the RE0920 filter that your site listed and the RE0810
> that was being discussed on the list. I had to call their tech
> dept and the
> guy said it was a pain in the ass to look up the specs but he did it so
> thanks goes to him. These two filters are exactly the same except for one
> aspect...The inside diameter of the flange end. The filter listed on your
> site (RE0920) has a 3.5 inch inside diameter which is perfect if you are
> using a 3" PVC pipe for the poorboy since the outer diameter of the 3" PVC
> is 3.5". The flexible tubing off the air hat actually has a 3" inside
> diameter, but it does stretch over the PVC fitting. The only
> mistake that I
> found on your site was that it listed the diameter of the flange end as
> being 3" when it should be 3.5". I'm not sure how flexible these filter
> flanges are so I don't know if the RE0810 would stretch out over the 3.5"
> pipe. What would be ideal is to use that filter and use a pipe
> that had an
> outer diameter of 3". I don't think I have ever seen PVC offered in 1/2"
> sizes such as a 2.5" ID which would give you a 3" OD. Hope this helps
> anyone out there still confused and if I have just said something that
> someone else had found out and already posted I guess it won't hurt to say
> it again! If anyone has found out anything different then we need to call
> Summit tech and give them some shit!
>
> David Albrecht
> Central Missouri
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Nate Johnson <natedak2k@yahoo.com>
> To: David Albrecht <patch@cdsinet.net>
> Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2000 11:59 AM
> Subject: Re: Question about poor boy intake again...
>
>
> > If your pipe fits into the flexible tubing from the Airhat
> it'll fit into
> > the end of the K&N. The diameter of the K&N and flexible tubing are the
> > same... Hmm.. maybe there's a typo on my site? When you get that K&N
> PLEASE
> > measure it for me and let me know what the dimensions are... If
> My site's
> > wrong I need to fix it!
> >
> > I did the small hose the hard way... I drilled a hole in my
> Po'boy and put
> a
> > little nipple in there for the hose to connect to. (you can see
> it in the
> > picture at my site). I would say that's probably not the
> best/easiest way
> > though... They make little tiny filters/breathers that would plug right
> into
> > that tube no problem! And probably look kinda cool too! That air does
> need
> > to be filtered though.. I wouldn't just remove it.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: David Albrecht <patch@cdsinet.net>
> > To: Nate Johnson <natedak2k@yahoo.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2000 9:25 PM
> > Subject: Question about poor boy intake again...
> >
> >
> > > Nate...
> > > I went out and puchased a PVC fitting and piece of pipe today
> so now all
> I
> > > need to do is order the filter. I noticed that the filter you have
> listed
> > > has a 3" inside diameter. Is this the diameter of where the pipe goes
> > into
> > > it? The reason I am asking is that I purchased all 3" pipe
> and fitting
> > but
> > > the actually outside diameter of the pipe is 3.5". The pipe
> will slide
> > into
> > > the flexible tube coming off the air box on the throttle body with a
> > little
> > > pushing, but will it slide into the end of the filter too? I just
> wanted
> > to
> > > make sure before I ordered the filter. When you purchased
> your pipe and
> > > fitting did you go with a 2.5" inside diameter which would
> give you a 3"
> > > outside diameter? Just wondering if I got the wrong size stuff or if
> the
> > > filter end will stretch like the flex tubing did. One last
> > question...there
> > > is a small hose that comes up to the pipe going from the stock box to
> the
> > > filter box. What did you do with that? Cap it off? Take it out?
> Thanks
> > > so much for the info!!!
> > >
> > > David
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Nate Johnson <natedak2k@yahoo.com>
> > > To: David Albrecht <patch@cdsinet.net>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 8:21 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Your Po-boy Intake System
> > >
> > >
> > > > Well, I only had one thing in mind when I said that (things
> they don't
> > > > tell you at the dealer). Now, you may already know this but I'll go
> > ahead
> > > > and explain it to ya. You have the capability to force
> your truck to
> > > > perform a "self test" of all sensors, the computer, etc... When you
> do
> > > > this it will also "list" any MIL codes stored in the computer! It
> does
> > > > this via. the digital odometer. What you do is, with the key in the
> > > > ignition but turned off, depress the trip reset button (in the inst.
> > > > cluster), and HOLD IT. While holding it in turn the key to the "ON"
> > > > position (not start) and keep holding in the trip reset
> button. Give
> it
> > > > about 5 seconds and then you'll see, I believe it's the word "chec",
> in
> > > > the odometer. At this point you can let go of the reset button and
> > enjoy
> > > > the show! It'll do a whole bunch of stuff, the odo and
> guages will go
> > > > nuts. At the very end of the test if there's any codes
> stored in the
> > > > computer it will spit them out one at a time on the
> odometer! Pretty
> > cool
> > > > huh? And you thought you needed a scan tool! hehehe. Now,
> I've never
> > > > actually seen the codes spit up, and I hope I never do! But I've
> spoken
> > > > to someone who has had a code spit up on a '00 so I know that it
> works.
> > > > (Bad O2 sensor from the factory). Anyway, I've enclosed a list of
> codes
> > > > for your reference (by far not a complete list).
> > > >
> > > > Yeah, Your definitly better off building your own intake. As far as
> the
> > > > intake tube going straight to the TB that's just for looks. If you
> > don't
> > > > care what it looks like I wouldn't even worry about
> removing the stock
> > air
> > > > hat. If you take it off (I have) you'll notice that all it is
> > underneath
> > > > that big square cover is a 90 degree tube that connects between the
> TB
> > > > and the airbox... Nothing different then a mandrel bent 3"
> tube! It's
> > > > alot easier to connect your "po-boy" to that flexible tube
> too because
> > it
> > > > allows a little flexibility.
> > > >
> > > > Gibson's seem to be one of the "cat backs" of choice... Good choice
> > there!
> > > >
> > > > Sounds like you've got a sweet truck! I'll definitly recomment the
> > extang
> > > > BlackMax snap cover. Excellent cover I've had mine almost a
> year with
> no
> > > > problems and it's adjustable for temp. changes. comes with a 3 year
> > tarp
> > > > 5 year rail warrentee to boot!
> > > > I found my best price here - http://www.accessconnect.com/extang.htm
> > > > The manufacturers site is - http://www.extang.com/
> > > >
> > > > Good Luck!
> > > > Nate.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- David Albrecht <patch@cdsinet.net> wrote:
> > > > > Hey there... Thanks for the info! I got it all printed
> off and am
> > > > > thinking of reseting my computer this weekend when I get
> time. What
> > did
> > > > > you mean by things they don't tell you at the dealer's?
> My truck is
> a
> > > > > 2000 Club Cab 4x4 SLT. It has the 4.7L with the auto.
> It's pretty
> > much
> > > > > loaded although I put my CD player in it yesterday that I
> had in my
> > > > > other truck. I've been looking at exhausts and the different air
> > intake
> > > > > setups you can get. I'll probably go with the GIbson cat back. I
> > will
> > > > > probably try to make my own intake setup like you did...There is a
> guy
> > > > > at www.coffeyjet.com that is making them and selling them. He is
> > > > > actually making them so you can remove the stock air box on top of
> the
> > > > > throttle body completely. I wish that he had a closer
> picture so I
> > > > > could see how it attached. My plans so far are for the
> exhaust and
> > the
> > > > > intake system first. I'll probably go with a snap top
> cover for the
> > > > > bed. My truck came with the trailer package. It was a
> demo and was
> > not
> > > > > orignally ordered with it, but the maintenance manager at the
> > dealership
> > > > > was driving it and he had it put on. Anyways...I do love the
> > > > > truck...rides great....plenty of power....can't wait to try it in
> the
> > > > > mud! Well I will talk at ya later...I joined the DML
> tonight. This
> > > > > will be my third list I have been on. First it was for a early
> > > > > bronco...then the toyota 4x4 one..and now this one. Thanks for
> > > > > everything...
> > > > >
> > > > > David Albrecht
> > > > > Missouri
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: Nate Johnson
> > > > > To: David Albrecht
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2000 10:25 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: Your Po-boy Intake System
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The computer in your Dak "learns" your driving style...
> Especially
> > if
> > > > > you have an auto (which I don't). It takes a few hundred miles of
> > > > > "normal" driving to teach the computer what's up. With an auto
> it'll
> > > > > adjust shift points fuel and air mapping, and other
> perimeters with
> a
> > > > > stick it just leaves out the shift points (obviously!)
> Whenever you
> > > > > perform a mod to the engine, i.e.. air intake, fuel delivery,
> pulleys,
> > > > > cams, spark plugs, etc. etc. etc. the computer will take a few
> hundred
> > > > > miles to "realize" that something new is going on before it learns
> the
> > > > > new settings. When you reset the computer you, in
> effect, wipe out
> > it's
> > > > > memory and force it to relearn everything it knew with the new
> > > > > perimeters. To reset the computer you simply disconnect
> (completely)
> > > > > the battery and while the battery is disconnected you turn the key
> to
> > > > > start for a few seconds. Obviously nothing will happen but your
> > > > > computers memory has now been wiped out! You'll
> immediately notice,
> > > > > that the truck will behave differently for awhile until
> it relearns
> > and
> > > > > sets itself up. A way to speed up the learning process is to
> perform
> > an
> > > > > OBDII (that's the 96 and newer emissions standard) driving cycle
> which
> > > > > is available at my site but I'll attach it here for ya.
> > > > >
> > > > > What year Dakota did you get, a 2000? There's a few
> other goodies
> > in
> > > > > there that they don't tell you about at the dealer. If your
> > interested
> > > > > just let me know. If you haven't already I STRONGLY
> suggest you join
> > the
> > > > > DML (Dakota mailing list) also. Threre's a wealth of information
> > there
> > > > > also. It's basically a list server comprised of about 500 or so
> > Dakota
> > > > > owners around the World all discussing their Dakota's. I
> won't tell
> > you
> > > > > everything here though because I'd just be repeating what's at the
> > DML's
> > > > > site. You can take a look at
> > > > > http://www.cs.fredonia.edu/~stei0302/www/dakota/dakota.html
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, good luck and I'm sure you'll LOVE that Dakota!
> > > > > (see attached OBDII driving cycle.)
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: David Albrecht
> > > > > To: natedak2k@yahoo.com
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2000 9:44 PM
> > > > > Subject: Your Po-boy Intake System
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Saw you site...liked the air induction you came up with. Just
> one
> > > > > question...I'm a new Dakota owner (1 week now) and was wondering
> what
> > > > > you were taking about when you said "computer reset." Can you
> > explain?
> > > > > Thanks...
> > > > >
> > > > > David Albrecht
> > > > > Missouri
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > =====
> > > > Nate, Ogden UT
> > > > http://www.geocities.com/natedak2k
> > > > Forest Green 00 Dakota CC 4X4, 5-speed, LSD, 3.92 Rear, 4.7L/287ci,
> > Po'boy
> > > cold air w/ K&N, Extang BlackMax Tonneau
> > > > "D2K"
> > > >
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