Sorry guys, but that's B.S.
Carbon fiber is not only lighter, but STRONGER in a crash if molded with any
kind of skill. (or with a high carbon/lb. ratio) Note the McLaren F1
supercar, which, when crash-tested at 35-40 mph, recieved only minor damage
to the very surface of the body panels, no structural damage whatsoever, and
could have easily been driven right back to the factory. I have heard
stories of guys on the autobahns of Europe crashing spectacularly at 150+
speeds, flipping the car a rediculous amount of times and still there was
very little damage to the "driving compartment", as well as no injuries or
deaths reported. There is a bit of difference between the million-plus F1
and the next Viper or S7, but not all that much... It's still much more
crash-worthy than steel. I think the confusion about carbon fiber panels
stems from the fact that the point of "a little damage" comes a lot quicker
than steel, but the reality is that the point of complete failure for steel
comes quicker.
Sean Bruckman
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stlaurent Mr Steven" <STLAURENTS@mctssa.usmc.mil>
To: <dakota-truck@buffnet.net>
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:32 PM
Subject: DML: RE: Re: RE: RE: RE: Street-Legal Supercar
> Carbon Fiber bodies = Geo Metro hitting a tree. OOOOOOOOUUUUUUUHHHHH!
>
> -------------------------------------------
> Steven St.Laurent
> Test Engineer
> Test Branch, GSD, MCTSSA
> MARCORSYSCOM, USMC
> 760-725-2506 (DSN 365-2506)
> Work:mailto:stlaurents@mctssa.usmc.mil
> Home:mailto:saint1958@home.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ryan Stewart [mailto:firebird@kymtnnet.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 10:14 AM
> To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net
> Subject: DML: Re: RE: RE: RE: Street-Legal Supercar
>
> Carbon fiber=weakerin a crash=you die easier. :)
>
>
> Hehehe
>
> -Ryan
> 99 DA RC R/T
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Stlaurent Mr Steven <STLAURENTS@mctssa.usmc.mil>
> To: <dakota-truck@buffnet.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 2:07 PM
> Subject: DML: RE: RE: RE: Street-Legal Supercar
>
>
> > I referring to the 2003 Viper not the current version, which does the
> carbon
> > fiber components and computerize front dam wing and rear wing. See
> Autoweek
> > January 2000 issue or I have the pics here to send you.
> >
> > -------------------------------------------
> > Steven St.Laurent
> > Test Engineer
> > Test Branch, GSD, MCTSSA
> > MARCORSYSCOM, USMC
> > 760-725-2506 (DSN 365-2506)
> > Work:mailto:stlaurents@mctssa.usmc.mil
> > Home:mailto:saint1958@home.com
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Nicholas Horton [mailto:nhorton@reliacom.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 10:55 AM
> > To: 'dakota-truck@buffnet.net'
> > Subject: DML: RE: RE: Street-Legal Supercar
> >
> > Its so expensive because hes not a manufacturer who needs the car for
> > advertising. Dodge has the viper for brand awareness, not money making.
> > Steve Saleen is a small time guy and will charge for his R&D and parts
> work.
> > The viper does not have things like carbon fiber body paneling etc.
> (We're
> > talking about stock vehicles here.)
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Stlaurent Mr Steven [mailto:STLAURENTS@mctssa.usmc.mil]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:26 PM
> > > To: 'dakota-truck@buffnet.net'
> > > Subject: DML: RE: Street-Legal Supercar
> > >
> > >
> > > I had insulted the Saleen boys and explained about the
> > > upcoming Viper is
> > > only 81K versus 375K with the same specifications. Man! You wouldn't
> > > believe the Roaches came flying out of the walls at my e-mail.
> > >
> > > You go figure why they want to charge so much.
> > >
> > > What I am waiting to see the next replacement for the S-351 model.
> > >
> > > -------------------------------------------
> > > Steven St.Laurent
> > > Test Engineer
> > > Test Branch, GSD, MCTSSA
> > > MARCORSYSCOM, USMC
> > > 760-725-2506 (DSN 365-2506)
> > > Work:mailto:stlaurents@mctssa.usmc.mil
> > > Home:mailto:saint1958@home.com
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ronald Wong [mailto:ron-wong@home.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 10:05 AM
> > > To: DML
> > > Subject: DML: Street-Legal Supercar
> > >
> > > Got back from Lost Wages....didn't make enough to SC the Dak
> > > but enough to
> > > pay for the trip and an extra G for my effort. Course, now I'm
> > > sleep-deprived. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ. Anyway, before I dozed off
> > > yesterday, I was
> > > perusing my mail and thumbing through the most recent Pop Sci
> > > mag when up
> > > pops this street-legal supercar. Now this car looks like it
> > > belongs on the
> > > track. It's got the stance of a Viper...maybe even a little lower, 41
> > > inches to be exact. Then I read further. The car is a
> > > concept car built by
> > > Mr. Saleen, builder of highly modified Stangs. Well, he
> > > built this one from
> > > the ground up, right here in Irvine. It has a midship V8
> > > running 550 hp at
> > > 6,400 rpm. Top speed is 200+. 0-60 in under 4 seconds. The car is
> > > slightly longer than 15 ft. Space frame chassis with all
> > > carbon fiber body
> > > panels. Rear view mirror has been replaced by video screen
> > > and a camera
> > > mounted at the rear. There is storage space, both front and
> > > back, but not
> > > big enough to hold a set of golf clubs. Steve's going to
> > > build 100 of these
> > > a year, but better start saving now....the cost is
> > > $375,000.00. It's called
> > > an S7. The production run will be four years starting next
> > > spring. Hmmmm,
> > > I guess I'm gonna have to go back to Vegas to get the money
> > > for this one!
> > >
> > > Ron
> > > 00 SLT QC 4X2 5.9 46RE 3.92 LSD
> > > For modifications see my DML Profile
> > >
> >
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