-----Original Message-----
From: owner-neon@iastate.edu [mailto:owner-neon@iastate.edu]On Behalf Of
Tom Byrne
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2000 10:03 AM
To: neon@iastate.edu
Subject: Re: neon Re: *Sigh*. The Germans Marcheth
Here is what we get from our analysts on Wall Street. These guys have moles
every where. Schrempps goal from the beginning was to ditch Plymouth and
Dodge. Chrysler would be the passenger car line and Jeep would have the
SUV's Most of the engineering would be Daimler. It is widely knownm on the
street that Schrempp wants out of the sporty compact models. He wants entry
practical cars luxury car vans and trucks. He also wants parts sharing with
Daimelr products ie Daimler engines etc. Chrysler is dead and doesn't know
it yet. With all due respect to the engineers and employees on this list,
you may not realize what is happening under your nose. Look at Xerox. Us on
Wall street knew they were going down. For years the employees (mgmt
included) said now way. Now the bonds trade .50 cents on the dollar (this
usually means impending bankruptcy) the rating agencies are expecting them
to go below investment grade and the employees are still saying its not that
bad. Chrysler is slowly going to be phased into Daimler. The boring product
line is Schremmps fault. Before 98 Chrysler was on the right track. Daimler
comes in and in some opinions makes the line boring by phasing out or
cancelling certain models/options or by standing by and letting it happen.
Schrempp has said in the past that he does not like the Viper, which is a
Chrysler not Dodge in Europe
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Baumbach <stevebaumbach@yahoo.com>
To: <neon@iastate.edu>
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: neon Re: *Sigh*. The Germans Marcheth
> Rich, excellent points. I would also like to add a
> thought. Chrysler is where it is now not due to
> Daimler, but from four or so years ago. No one would
> have predicted that a Neon that was made better would
> sell less, or that the price of a car would stay the
> same, or that incentives to sell cars would skyrocket.
> Anyhow, things may start off bumpy, but I think that
> the Chrysler group will settle down and get back to
> making cars that we all love. The old leadership may
> be gone, but we will have a new leadership (NO, not
> all German) that will take over and get Chrysler back
> on track.
>
> So, how about a Mercedes A-class ACR? err...GCR
>
> Steve "optimistic engineer" Baumbach
> 1999 Plymouth Neon ACR
>
>
> --- Rich Hutchinson <neonrichbms@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Re: neon *Sigh*. The Germans Marcheth
> > >
> > > I understand the disappointment felt on this list.
> > I
> > > work at DCX up at the Tech Center in Auburn Hills.
> >
> > > There is a lot of disappointment up there as well.
> >
> > > But all is not too bad. Dieter Zetchte (sp) is
> > the
> > > supposedly the new President, bringing his crony
> > whose
> > > name I cannot remember (Wolfgang something) right
> > now
> > > as CEO.
> >
> > Wolfgang (can't remember the last name either :)
> > headed up the AMG unit
> > at Mercedes. According to the Detroit News, he's an
> > 'car nut engineer'
> > which can only be good.
> >
> > Dieter is the man that is supposedly rumored
> > > to be Jurgen Schrempps replacement.
> >
> > Deiter is also buddy buddy with Schrempp. I have a
> > feeling that Jeurgen
> > thinks he can let Deiter run things and they'll be
> > done the way Jeurgen
> > wants them to be, without surprises like plant
> > shutdowns. Chryslers'
> > performance since the merger has got him on the hot
> > seat. I think the
> > blame lies with Eaton for not aggressively pushing
> > for improved
> > product, instead resting on the laurals that Iacocca
> > built. Schrempp
> > and the vaunted German research team also saw stars
> > in thier eyes at
> > the healthy state of 1998 Chrysler, not seeing that
> > all that product
> > would get old at once and there was no avoiding the
> > current situation,
> > especially with fairly tepid redesigns of the Grand
> > Cherokee and Neon
> > on tap. Holden was simply overmatched.
> >
> >
> > > platform...). Ah well, enough ranting. I hope,
> > as
> > > you all do, that Chrysler pulls out of this lull
> > like
> > > it has in the past.
> >
> > The key difference being it had leadership that
> > understood the mass
> > market American vehicle. Time will tell. I haven't
> > stuck the fork in
> > them yet, but the tines are being sharpened. Now
> > that Holden's gone
> > I've put down the sharpening stone and will see how
> > folks react to the
> > Germans quite directly running things and how the
> > Germans effect change
> > (following Holden's slash & burn policy or moving
> > ahead with new
> > product). At this point I simply hope they take care
> > of the nameplates
> > that used to belong to the old Chryco.
> >
> > Rich
> > Long live the Mopar Spirit!
> >
> > =====
> > Web: http://richweb.allpar.net/
> > The EEK Chrysler 5th Avenue site:
> > http://awc.comercis.net/neonrich/
> > Car: 1995 Plymouth Neon Highline Coupe:--106k and
> > rising
> > "Rock & roll used to be about playing music that
> > stood for
> > something. Now it's background music for Burger King
> > and
> > McDonald's commercials."(Michael Moore)
> >
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