Re: RE: Sub 12 Neon Turbo-Truth or Facts

From: Jack Hilton (hemi@charter.net)
Date: Mon Dec 18 2000 - 11:13:50 EST


I think the car you are talking about never saw production. To the best of my
knowledge, those cars were not all aluminum, they just used aluminum in place of
steel for the vest majority of all drivetrain and suspension parts.

Nah, I think the guy at the nats was running some crazy boost and like a 500HP
NOS system.

Jack

"Sevrence, Sean (S.J.)" wrote:

> I wonder if this is one of those Neon LTs (all aluminum)? This would drop
> the weight down to around the 2K mark. I read about these but did not know
> if they went into production. I am not sure the Viper had a "good" run, but
> I would like to ride in that neon! ;P
>
> Sean
> '92 Sport 3.9L 5sp - 250,000mi!
> '01 CC SLT+ 4.7L 5sp LSD!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stlaurent Mr Steven [mailto:STLAURENTS@mctssa.usmc.mil]
> Sent: Monday, December 18, 2000 10:21 AM
> To: 'dakota-truck@BUFFNET.NET'
> Subject: DML: Sub 12 Neon Turbo-Truth or Facts
>
> Since most Neon run into 16.xx on the average for the 1/4 mile, I cannot see
> even with a 8PSI Turbo unit, which is a safe zone for the drive train and
> engine components to outrun even a stock Viper. The Viper GTS runs
> 12.2-12.4 in the 1/4 mile on stock drive train. Now you see my point.
>
> Since I have seen the numbers for a Whipple SC Neon motor, the 1/4 mile
> times doesn't match with this comparo. Ryan, even with a 6 or 8PSI, you
> will only get around 200-215HP at the front drive train and no more. With
> this in mind, the Neon is only going to produce around a low 15 or high 14
> at the most depending on which tires the dude is running. Then add a few
> other extras, he may make it into the low 14. Even comparing weight of a
> mere 600 lbs difference is not going to help the Neon.
>
> What I am seeing here is 16PSI or better and plus some other stuff keep it
> from failing on the street or strip while running below the 12.x range.
> Maybe a bottle on top a turbo. There is no way...no way he running
> something that low and beating a Viper GTS. If he were, I would opt to buy
> a Neon and load it. To much money in investing into the Neon to keep the
> car together for both street and strip.
>
> What he saying and what is reality is another story.
>
> -------------------------------------------
> Steven St.Laurent
> Test Engineer
> Test Branch, GSD, MCTSSA
> MARCORSYSCOM, USMC
> 760-725-2506 (DSN 365-2506)
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ryan Stewart [mailto:firebird@kymtnnet.org]
> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2000 7:45 PM
> To: dakota-truck@BUFFNET.NET
> Subject: DML: Re: RE: Neon Vs Viper GTS
>
> The Neon is treet driven 160 miles tot he track and is otherwise driven on
> the street. Their site does't mention any engine failures.
>
> -Ryan
> 99 DA RC R/T
> Looks purdy solid.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Steven St.Laurent <saint1958@home.com>
> To: <dakota-truck@BUFFNET.NET>
> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2000 9:10 PM
> Subject: DML: RE: Neon Vs Viper GTS
>
> > Your point is?
> >
> > Like most 23PSI blown ricer cars, good for a few runs for blowing either
> the
> > top or bottom end. But using the same logic, let add the same to a GTS
> car
> > and race it again with the Neon. Now we have 900 to 1200HP. Who do you
> > think will win?
> >
> > Yet, we all know the Neon has no power under stock with a 150HP but the
> GTS
> > does with 450HP (with 3.08:1 gears).
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > Steven St.Laurent
> > 2000 Dakota 4.7 Hemi (beta I testing)
> > 1999 Chevy (gone in 2003)
> > 1993 Tracker (still going...going)
> > 2000 Roush Mustang Stage II (sold) TT
> > ----------->:)
> > Aspiring for the next toys:
> > 2003 Dakota Hemi R/T
> > 2003 GTS-R Viper
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-dakota-truck@BUFFNET.NET
> > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@BUFFNET.NET]On Behalf Of Ryan Stewart
> > Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2000 8:53 PM
> > To: dakota-truck@BUFFNET.NET
> > Subject: DML: Neon Vs Viper GTS
> >
> > Per about 50 people's request, here is the video of the Neon obliterating
> > the Viper GTS. ENJOY!
> >
> > http://www.dodgertclub.com/movies/lenkillviper00.mpeg
> >
> >
> > -Ryan
> > 99 DA RC R/T
> > Hate to meet up with that thing on the street..... No, not the Viper, the
> > NEON! Hehehehe. :)
> >



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