Well now I know the Viper was designed to be able to hit 100 and go back
down to 100 in 10 sec. Len's Neon was only hitting 100 + change. I think
114-116. I'm definately not trying to take away from what that Neon can do,
but from what I've seen, what the Viper can do has a lot more to do with the
driver than what the driver has done to the engine.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ryan Stewart [mailto:firebird@kymtnnet.org]
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2000 3:20 PM
To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net
Subject: DML: Re: RE: Sub 12 Neon Turbo-Truth or Facts
Not sur eif it made a difference whether the Viper ha d a good run. If he
was stock, don't think he could beat the Neon 11.1 (think that's what it
ran). 11.3-.6 is about the best I could imagine for a stock GTS, maybe a lil
faster for the fastest ACR.
-Ryan
99 DA RC R/T
That Neon is kinda fast.
----- Original Message -----
From: Sevrence, Sean (S.J.) <ssevrenc@visteon.com>
To: 'dakota-truck@BUFFNET.NET' <dakota-truck@buffnet.net>
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2000 10:55 AM
Subject: DML: RE: Sub 12 Neon Turbo-Truth or Facts
> I wonder if this is one of those Neon LTs (all aluminum)? This would drop
> the weight down to around the 2K mark. I read about these but did not know
> if they went into production. I am not sure the Viper had a "good" run,
but
> I would like to ride in that neon! ;P
>
> Sean
> '92 Sport 3.9L 5sp - 250,000mi!
> '01 CC SLT+ 4.7L 5sp LSD!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stlaurent Mr Steven [mailto:STLAURENTS@mctssa.usmc.mil]
> Sent: Monday, December 18, 2000 10:21 AM
> To: 'dakota-truck@BUFFNET.NET'
> Subject: DML: Sub 12 Neon Turbo-Truth or Facts
>
>
> Since most Neon run into 16.xx on the average for the 1/4 mile, I cannot
see
> even with a 8PSI Turbo unit, which is a safe zone for the drive train and
> engine components to outrun even a stock Viper. The Viper GTS runs
> 12.2-12.4 in the 1/4 mile on stock drive train. Now you see my point.
>
> Since I have seen the numbers for a Whipple SC Neon motor, the 1/4 mile
> times doesn't match with this comparo. Ryan, even with a 6 or 8PSI, you
> will only get around 200-215HP at the front drive train and no more. With
> this in mind, the Neon is only going to produce around a low 15 or high 14
> at the most depending on which tires the dude is running. Then add a few
> other extras, he may make it into the low 14. Even comparing weight of a
> mere 600 lbs difference is not going to help the Neon.
>
> What I am seeing here is 16PSI or better and plus some other stuff keep it
> from failing on the street or strip while running below the 12.x range.
> Maybe a bottle on top a turbo. There is no way...no way he running
> something that low and beating a Viper GTS. If he were, I would opt to
buy
> a Neon and load it. To much money in investing into the Neon to keep the
> car together for both street and strip.
>
> What he saying and what is reality is another story.
>
> -------------------------------------------
> Steven St.Laurent
> Test Engineer
> Test Branch, GSD, MCTSSA
> MARCORSYSCOM, USMC
> 760-725-2506 (DSN 365-2506)
> Work:mailto:stlaurents@mctssa.usmc.mil
> Home:mailto:saint1958@home.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ryan Stewart [mailto:firebird@kymtnnet.org]
> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2000 7:45 PM
> To: dakota-truck@BUFFNET.NET
> Subject: DML: Re: RE: Neon Vs Viper GTS
>
> The Neon is treet driven 160 miles tot he track and is otherwise driven on
> the street. Their site does't mention any engine failures.
>
> -Ryan
> 99 DA RC R/T
> Looks purdy solid.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Steven St.Laurent <saint1958@home.com>
> To: <dakota-truck@BUFFNET.NET>
> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2000 9:10 PM
> Subject: DML: RE: Neon Vs Viper GTS
>
>
> > Your point is?
> >
> > Like most 23PSI blown ricer cars, good for a few runs for blowing either
> the
> > top or bottom end. But using the same logic, let add the same to a GTS
> car
> > and race it again with the Neon. Now we have 900 to 1200HP. Who do you
> > think will win?
> >
> > Yet, we all know the Neon has no power under stock with a 150HP but the
> GTS
> > does with 450HP (with 3.08:1 gears).
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > Steven St.Laurent
> > 2000 Dakota 4.7 Hemi (beta I testing)
> > 1999 Chevy (gone in 2003)
> > 1993 Tracker (still going...going)
> > 2000 Roush Mustang Stage II (sold) TT
> > ----------->:)
> > Aspiring for the next toys:
> > 2003 Dakota Hemi R/T
> > 2003 GTS-R Viper
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-dakota-truck@BUFFNET.NET
> > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@BUFFNET.NET]On Behalf Of Ryan Stewart
> > Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2000 8:53 PM
> > To: dakota-truck@BUFFNET.NET
> > Subject: DML: Neon Vs Viper GTS
> >
> > Per about 50 people's request, here is the video of the Neon
obliterating
> > the Viper GTS. ENJOY!
> >
> > http://www.dodgertclub.com/movies/lenkillviper00.mpeg
> >
> >
> > -Ryan
> > 99 DA RC R/T
> > Hate to meet up with that thing on the street..... No, not the Viper,
the
> > NEON! Hehehehe. :)
> >
>
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