RE: Gas mileage to crap?

From: Ronald Wong (ron-wong@home.com)
Date: Mon Jan 29 2001 - 13:04:34 EST


<shuffle shuffle> ....donning asbestos suit....<ugh lug lug> donning
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off kryptonite rays)...ahhhh...get comfy...ok, guys....let the fireworks
begin! ;-D

Ron
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-dakota-truck@buffnet.net
[mailto:owner-dakota-truck@buffnet.net]On Behalf Of bernd@texas.net
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 3:53 AM
To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net
Subject: Re: DML: Gas mileage to crap?

Well, take this lightly...but I can force OPEN-LOOP by just changing the
voltage on my MAP Box. Watched that on the scanner (and Laptop). Didn't
change anything else.

- Bernd

> "Bernd D. Ratsch" wrote:
>
> > I hope they don't bet on it...here's the facts:
>
> Sounds like you might want to bet on it. As far as facts - I have read
the
> exact same thing (from my FSM) - do I consider them facts? No -
especially
not
> when I find out otherwise from experimentation. Good ole scientific
method -
> gotta love it.
>
> > There are 7 different modes (conditions) that are used (besides Key-ON
and
>
> <big snip>
>
> > Under conditions 1,2,4,5,6,7...the O2 Sensor is ignored by the PCM. Y
>
> Uh - that would be 1,2,5,6,7 according to your data...
>
> > Yes, even in the FSM's..."During Open-Loop modes, the PCM receives input
> > signals and responds according to preset PCM programming. Input from
the O2
> > sensors is not monitored during Open-Loop modes."
>
> This says NOTHING about the transition from Open-Loop to Closed-Loop and
EXACTLY
> what causes the transition to occur. Furthermore, the word "Input" in the
> sentence that starts "Input from the O2 sensors is not monitored..." is
somewhat
> vague. Input for the purpose of what? Providing fuel and spark delivery
or
> for determining when to transition from Open-Loop to Closed-Loop. These
are
two
> distinct things that can both use the same input for a potential different
> purpose.
>
> > Anyone want to bet on it?
>
> Offer still stands.
>
> Latr,
>
> Shane
>
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