Re: Gas mileage to crap?

From: bernd@texas.net
Date: Mon Jan 29 2001 - 13:10:54 EST


Well, take this lightly...but I can force OPEN-LOOP by just changing the
voltage on my MAP Box. Watched that on the scanner (and Laptop). Didn't
change anything else.

- Bernd

> "Bernd D. Ratsch" wrote:
>
> > I hope they don't bet on it...here's the facts:
>
> Sounds like you might want to bet on it. As far as facts - I have read the
> exact same thing (from my FSM) - do I consider them facts? No - especially
not
> when I find out otherwise from experimentation. Good ole scientific method -
> gotta love it.
>
> > There are 7 different modes (conditions) that are used (besides Key-ON and
>
> <big snip>
>
> > Under conditions 1,2,4,5,6,7...the O2 Sensor is ignored by the PCM. Y
>
> Uh - that would be 1,2,5,6,7 according to your data...
>
> > Yes, even in the FSM's..."During Open-Loop modes, the PCM receives input
> > signals and responds according to preset PCM programming. Input from the O2
> > sensors is not monitored during Open-Loop modes."
>
> This says NOTHING about the transition from Open-Loop to Closed-Loop and
EXACTLY
> what causes the transition to occur. Furthermore, the word "Input" in the
> sentence that starts "Input from the O2 sensors is not monitored..." is
somewhat
> vague. Input for the purpose of what? Providing fuel and spark delivery or
> for determining when to transition from Open-Loop to Closed-Loop. These are
two
> distinct things that can both use the same input for a potential different
> purpose.
>
> > Anyone want to bet on it?
>
> Offer still stands.
>
> Latr,
>
> Shane
>
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