Re: RE: RE: 92-95 Dakota's Dying--MUST READ FOR GEN II's

From: Mark Kuzia (flyboy01@mediaone.net)
Date: Wed Jun 13 2001 - 09:13:16 EDT


Don't fall for it! They did the same to me, I spent $900+ at one dealer they
replaced the fuel pump (3 times, DUH! not it.), they rebuilt the t-body
(spray t-body cleaner down it), and replaced the wiring going to the fuel
pump under the truck. It was the fix I described later that did the trick.
Twisting the wires together might not work, they have to be crimped or
soldered.

Mark Kuzia
flyboy01@mediaone.net
http://people.mw.mediaone.net/flyboy01/home.html
1995 Dakota 13.79 @ 102.45 mph
~360ci, 5-spd, 4.11 LS (8 3/4 [3.90 SG] coming soon)
1994 Dakota 15.36 @ 91.56 mph
~318ci, 5-spd, 3.90 LS (bone stock, no mods)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sam Parthemer" <srp@home.com>
To: <dakota-truck@buffnet.net>
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 2:55 AM
Subject: DML: RE: RE: 92-95 Dakota's Dying--MUST READ FOR GEN II's

> Update #2 on mine... They replaced the hale effect pickup deal in the
> distributor, got spark.. but said I had no fuel pressure.
>
> They now tell me I have a bad fuel pump. BS. I told them to twist the
wires
> together that were exposed (see corroded below)... and they said, "OH,
> OKAY.. let me check." They call back 2 hours later and say "Those were
> together, the fuel pump isn't working." I don't feel like shelling out
> another $450 with these bone heads. I'm picking up the truck tomorrow,
and
> towing it home to fix it myself. If I get that damn thing started by
> twisting the wiring together that I exposed, I'm going to be the happiest
> man alive now.
>
> What are the chances for the Hale Effect pickup & the fuel pump to die at
> the same time??
>
> Sam
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-dakota-truck@buffnet.net
> > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@buffnet.net]On Behalf Of tmfu
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 7:33 PM
> > To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net
> > Subject: DML: RE: 92-95 Dakota's Dying--MUST READ FOR GEN II's
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Right below the underhood fusebox, about 8" down the harness is a
splice
> > > (#115), from that splice, it powers the PCM, Fuel Pump, and
> > Coil. All four
> > > wires are Red/white, one comes from the fusebox, two go right
> > > back up to the relays, and the fourth goes the opposite direction to
the
> > PCM.
> > > You will have to unbolt the fusebox, pull it out of the way,
> > and cut open
> > the
> > > tape on the harness to find the splice.
> > >
> > > I guess what happens is that water gets into the fusebox,
> > drains down the
> > > harness, and eventually corrodes the splice into green powder
(oxidized
> > > copper). You cannot tell if it is bad by looking at it, you will
> > > have to cut the tape off of the splice and inspect the
> > connection. If you
> > see
> > > and green or white residue on the connection under the tape, it has
> > started
> > > to go bad and needs to be re-done (preferably by soldering).
> > >
> > > This problem can be very intermittent, sometimes just a single
> > miss while
> > > cruising down the highway, sometimes just a long cranking time, mine
was
> > > even sensitive to temperature (28-40F) and high humidity. The
> > > problem in my 94 Dak occurred intermittently 30+ times and over $1000
in
> > parts over a
> > > year. Finally one day it just died in Toledo, luckily I was
> > > walking distance from Vin Devers Dodge. When I got there, they were
> > closing in 5
> > > minutes, one of the mechanics there said he new exactly what the
problem
> > was, grabbed
> > > some tools and drove me back to my truck to fix it, AFTER CLOSING
> > > TIME! This guy earned every penny CryCo pays him. Never had the
problem
> > since, 80,000
> > > miles later.
> > >
> > > My 95 Dak just refused to start one day after I replaced my 14x3
> > > K&N with a 14x4 filter. When I was done it would not start! It
> > was just a
> > > coincidence, as it turns out, but I sure was confused at the time. I
> > checked the splice
> > > as a hunch after I could not get a voltage reading at the PCM.
> > > Sure enough, after I cut the harness to get a better look at I thought
> > that the splice
> > > looked fine, but I gave it a little tug to get a closer look, and
> > > IT SNAPPED IN HALF! Up until that time, I never had it die, it never
> > > stumbled, nothing. I even drove the truck the night before and
> > never even
> > a stumble.
> > >
> > > A guy I work with also has a 93 Dak that had the exact same problems.
> > >
> > > The point I'm tying to make is that this is a big problem on
> > > 92-95 Daks and you need to check it if you own one. Chances are if you
> > ever drove in the
> > > rain, yours has already started corroding.
> > >
> >
> > Had the same thing happen to my 95 a year ago! The mech said that it was
> > because of spillage from the washer reservoir or a leaking one. Could be
> > right...
> >
> > Greg
> > 2K1 Neon ES
> > Rahway, NJ
> > http://24.6.89.18/Neon
> > 24.6.89.18:6667 (IRC)
> > ICQ:283886
> >
>



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