Re: 4.7L - German Design after all?????

From: Jeff Durling (jdurling@mindspring.com)
Date: Wed Jun 27 2001 - 23:22:26 EDT


I cannot verify the 4.7 but everything I have ever read and seen is that the
PT cruiser engine is a Mitsubishi 2.4 turned transversely. I know for a fact
that the basis for the newer engine is based on the ones that they used to
put into the ram D50's and Mitsubishi mighty max pickups. I had the Mitsu
pickup with that engine and you couldn't kill it. As for the 4.7, you would
have to put them side by side for me to compare before I bought it. Even
though I enjoy my 4.7 it still has an American crudeness about it and
nothing about it even shows the refinement that a german engine has (no
flames please). If you are into German cars in the slightest you will
understand what I mean.

Jeff Durling
'01 4x2 QC SLT+

"Bernd D. Ratsch" wrote:

> >From a reputable source:
>
> "Update: my girlfriend's stepdad is a mechanic at a european auto repair
> shop, and he has verified that the valve covers, intake manifold and
> exhaust port patterns of the Mercedes engine are identical to the Dodge
> 4.7's. In fact the valve cover gasket of a 450SL will fit any 4.7 Dakota
> engine. Go Figure...
>
> But granted, Chrysler couldn't leave well enough alone and had to
> "Moparize" it so it would be that "same-but-different" thing and be more
> cost-effective to recycle old inventory, and in turn it makes things
> less expensive to manufacture and keep the overhead amounts lower. I've
> also heard that the 2.4L 4cyl PT Cruiser engines are nothing more than
> "modified" MB190E motors built on Dodge Neon chassis. All of this
> wouldn't surprise me since Daimler-Chrysler sent 1/2 of their german
> engineering team to detroit and took over the R&D duties. Hmmm...
>
> Rover Industries did the same thing with their Range Rover SUV's - their
> 3.9 & 4.0 V-8 engines are nothing more than old Buick 215cid V-8's that
> GM was going to scrap anyway, so Rover bought the entire lot of rusty
> old long blocks that were sitting in a forgotten GM warehouse, and they
> eventually found homes inbetween the fender wells of $80,000
> grocery-getters driven by rich snobby soccer moms. "
>
> - Bernd
> (I'm not the one who wrote this.)



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