and in my case I was only doing about 20 mph when I stomped on the brakes.
I should have stopped on a time with just a little lock up but instead I
rolled about another 5 to 10 feet. That is not a good thing.
Karsh
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-dakota-truck@BUFFNET.NET
[mailto:owner-dakota-truck@BUFFNET.NET]On Behalf Of Andy Levy
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 7:32 PM
To: dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net
Subject: Re: DML: Re: rear disc brakes
Kevin, while you're technically right about a rolling wheel being better
than a locked one, I think you're missing Darren's point. What he's saying
is that the brakes on his truck are so underpowered that they aren't
capable of locking the wheels, even when the truck is unloaded.
I remember way back in junior high school I was bragging to a bike shop
owner that the brakes on my Huffy were great because they couldn't lock the
wheel up (thus not sending me over the bars). He said that was really bad,
because it means I couldn't get the maximum braking possible.
Same situation here. If our brakes are so weak they can't lock up on an
unloaded truck, they aren't strong enough. If they don't lock up, then ABS
is pretty pointless, since we'll never get to the point where it's needed.
Kevin wrote:
> You do not want your brakes to lock up! A rolling wheel is still exerting
> a braking force on the pavement, where as a sliding wheel is just that
> sliding. Much less braking force on dry or wet pavement. There are some
> folks, namely racers who are about to out-perform a 4 wheel ABS in
> stopping distance, but it takes a lot of practice. A loaded truck that has
> lost braking control with wheels locked up is a bad situation.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Darren Asuncion" <dakotaguy1999@yahoo.com>
> To: <bob@cadpros.com>; <dakota-truck@buffnet.net>
> Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2001 11:25 AM
> Subject: DML: rear disc brakes
>
>
>> Bob, Thanks for the reply.
>>
>> The problem I have w/ the drum brakes on my Dak is that they don't have
>> enough stopping power especially when the bed is loaded (its loaded
> often).
>> The front brakes seem strong enough as they have been known lock-up and
>> cause the 4wheel ABS to kick in. I've disabled the 4wheel ABS to see if
> the
>> brakes are capable of locking all the wheels up, and only the front
>> brakes
>> locked up (bed was empty for this test!). This has been the case since
>> my truck was new, and others w/ Gen III Daks I know here have the same
>> complaint. Initially I thought the rear brakes were out of adjustment,
> and
>> the dealership (and a Midas shop) have verified that they were adjusted
> and
>> operating normally. I have yet to check on my own, haven't had time.
>> I'm wondering if maybe there's a proportioning valve somewhere that might
>> be
>> faulty... Its pretty bad when my dad's '92 Chevy K1500 can outstop my
>> Dakota. Also another reason for wanting to go w/ discs is I tend to take
> my
>> truck off-road, and the drum brakes simply aren't effective when backing
>> up...this can be dangerous sometimes. But anyway, if you have any other
>> suggestions or ideas for where to get disc (or better) brakes, that would
> be
>> awesome! Thanks again for the reply!
>>
>> Darren Asuncion
>> dakotaguy1999@yahoo.com
>> Kodiak, AK
>> '99 Intense Blue CC Sport +, 4x4, 5.2 V8, 44RE auto, 3.55 lsd (8.25"),
>> 4wheel ABS, 31" BFG All-terrain KO
>> http://www.geocities.com/dakotaguy1999/dakota.html
>>
>>
>>
>> Darren,
>>
>> Don't think you'll find much for less than what SSBrakes is asking. It
>> hasn't been a high demand item, so not many companies stepping up to the
>> plate to make them.
>>
>> Keep in mind that on the Dakota, you're really getting appearance more
>> than anything. Rear disc on that light rear end won't gain you much. For
>> a significant improvement in braking you want to upsize the fronts by 2"
>> diameter, but again not much available in the aftermarket yet. I think
>> you'll be hearing about more Viper brake conversions in the very near
>> future, like the set Harmon just installed, but I'm not sure how widely
>> those will be available. It will only be complete 4 wheel swaps and it
>> won't be cheap.
>>
>> Bob
>>
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